The Zealot is, as I see it, fundamentally a switch-hitter/skirmisher who wants to operate at close range even when he’s using a gun. Which presents a problem when their exclusive weapon- the flamer- takes several seconds to draw and brace, and even longer to reload. It’s a class all about moving fast and reacting faster, but their iconic weapon is so slow it’s barely usable. Give the current flamer to the veteran (or maybe even give it to Ogryn and call it a Heavy Flamer? They could use some better guns), and give the Zealot a Hand Flamer.
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I agree, a hand flamer would feel better for zealot
The flamer is one of the better weapons in the game, its only offset with its lack of range which is a fair trade.
If you’re getting hit then you are too close when you pull it out. Another option is hitting left click one or twice to CC the horde before going for brace.
When you use the flamer you should prep it while behind an ally and step forward when its ready to let loose.
Fair assessment, but a handflammer would make a great deal more sense for half the zealot builds, even if they still kept access to the regular flamer
I use flamer a lot on zealot and it’s way to strong to just be able to pull out like a shot gun.
If you want to pull out the flamer when your in actual danger you need to set it up with good positioning to jump back or eat hits to the face that you can’t afford on high difficulty.
If you want a quick switch CC range use the shot gun.
I actually like clunky weapon swap or all my other range weapons would never see play.
Certain range weapons should get buffed and have near instant weapon swaps and be able to mag dump very fast then swap back to melee very quickly.
Then you got normal swap speed weapons.
Then you got heavy weapons with the extended jank but they are actually powerful.
Pretty much all one handers get fast swap like the auto pistol and revolver.
Rifles and shot guns get normal swap
Plasma gun bolter and flamer get extended swaps.
Also why is hellbore lasgun got a extended swap its not a great weapon on the same level as bolter.
If you want fast and personal, take shotgun lol. Flamer is currently one of the best weapons in game, it’s as meta as you can get with Zealot. Meta Zealot builds right now are Combat Blade/Tactical Axe crit bleed builds with Flamer or Eviscerator with XII las/Bolter.
Flamer is fine. It has to be slow becasue it can delete the whole screen.
Like litereally I take it on Hi-Intensity Damnation and often the screen is just freaking full of hordes, maulers, ragers, armored ragers, some specials behind them, dog there etc.
I pull my flamer and hold it for couple of seconds.
And whole screen bar Crushers and Bulwarks (tough if staggered by my team Psyker they die too then) is just dead. Just ashes. It also makes killing Beast of Nurgle easy.
So yeah, it has to be clunky and slow with poor reload and not mobile. It’s a death machine, but it being so slow balances it’s power
The flamer’s only good thing is dealing with hordes. It makes the rest of the game a problem. I’ve been taking an agrippina braced autogun because you can use it within a second of swapping, has decent range, and still mows down hordes well. It also stopped making sense to bring a flamer on higher difficulty missions where long-range interactions are that much more common and oppressive. The bolter usually makes most sense at higher difficulties because it can deal with stacked ogryn elites and still allow you to deal with long range situations. Taking a flamer feels like you’re not even playing the game 75% of the time.