you can’t play from the character select screen. you have to load a character first, or you’ll get a message about no team found or smth.
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That’s the plan now, but I still have to help more players do their missions.
the only thing that i can think of as a dealbreaker in havoc would be the bolter due to its potential ammo consumption issues. nothing else in there seems off in any way (accounting for preferences ofc), certainly not enough to affect your overall performance in a noticeable manner.
i wouldn’t consider myself to be your better though, so take that with a grain of salt.
havoc pubs are as detached from the actual playerbase as tinder is from relationships and twitter outrages are from public opinion though. don’t expect the people you meet there to act with any kind of underlying reason, you’d be setting yourself up for disappointment
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Bolter is good in havoc for veteran with focus target, i just used such build this weekend, it is better against bosses than plasma, also more accurate in long distance shots and it still got cleave to cull the hordes. I did 600k+ on regular mobs and 300k on bosses and was dedicated boss slayer of the team. I never reached zero ammo, i tried using it sparingly and so was my team. so i got a lot of ammo given to me.
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yes this is what i usually get, even without focus target, thats my point, but to be honest duelling sword plays a part, things will change with DS nerf
I’d say the issue shortly is that you have too many selfish nodes without enough power to justify them
You’re running bolter, but no Focus Target and only 1 red damage node
You have the 33% toughness resistance, confirmed kill, one motion AND faster reload speed, just pick one side on the eary tree
You’re running +hp and +gunners on your curious, not really needed on vet if you’re playing with shout and iron will (which you are)
Superiority complex helps you with no thressholds
So when you think about it, what does your build exceed at? Because the name of it is “Grenade” yet it does nothing related to it
I offer you this alternative, monstrosities should drop like flies with this (and you’ll shred twins as well with DS + shout with these 3 nodes). Yellow choice is for the remaining point, either 5% crit chance or 10% melee attack speed
if i play bolter i wish to play it with both reload talents or i would be playing plasma gun or laspistol instead, you are miserable without them, i’ve already made concessions on letting go volley adept and it pisses me off already as it is
also the 5% movement speed node is worth the whole talent tree for me
this i 100% agree with you, i’ve overlooked that 15% extra boss damage when i unload with my F, and i changed that already on my own, but then don’t tell me going for that puny 5% crit chanche after i’ve sacrificed my crit chanche talent though, thats nonsense from my pov
sure, i’ve been playing this variant for thousands of hours and just figured out superiority complex was just better
also not having to bother with tags and stacks makes my apm more efficent and can focus on the important things
vet keystones are detremental to your gameplay to the point you’ll always have better performances without them
I do understand that it is a pain to use Bolter without these, but it’s exactly like I said i’m my first message
Too many selfish talents but without the damage to justify them, you use these 3 as safe pillows
The other option is giving up Close Range Drill and Confirmed Kill, but that’s not ideal compared to sacrificing Tactical Reload and In Motion
It’s your choice to run Bolter, adapt to the shortcomings, don’t force it by wasting potential damage
There’s always safer options that don’t require investment as you said, either Las pistol/Plasma, but also Hellbore (mk4) and Recon
It sounds puny, but that 5% chance makes a lot of difference on bosses that are staggered for the entirety of the duration where reciprocate doesn’t get that much value (also a reason why I run Relentless Strikes instead of Precog on my DS)
You also don’t have cavalcade on your Bolter, which makes this 5% crit chance a way bigger difference than you might notice when you shout + magdump
But if that still annoys you as I said you can always just boost your melee DPS
You have DS why do you even need apm?
You can focus on the important things even with Focus Target? I’m confused on how it restricts you from correct prioritization
“You’ll have better performance without them” based on what? I’m also confused by this
my damage is fine
and i didn’t even had close quarter killzone back then
‘‘selfish’’ quality of life perks became non negotiables for me because they are those who allowes me to keep my damage high in the first place
20% more damage in this game doesn’t make you do 20% more damage, its a value on top of all the other damage buffs you’d get, your team TTK on bosses won’t change that much with or without focus target
my personal experience of course
that 10-20% you occasionally get its not worth having over the 15% buff whenever you just full auto into some gunner walls, or when you melee those crusher and bullworks patrols, also applies to your grenades which are 60% of your damage outcome
i test that on every big balance patch and its always a big disappointment, i was concerned about boss killing since everyone were telling me that bosses weren’t a threat and i shouldn’t have built for those
to kill bosses in the most efficent way used to be my kink since the start, i was doing demon hosts back when i would get boohood by my whole team for engaging them
I thought Havoc is piece of cake now with all the Posts about Powercreep, Game not challenging anymore, OP this OP that….so why is it being gatekeeped so hard?
and they definitely need to add an quickplay option for it. when i start the game i want to play the game and not sit around half an hour trying to either be accepted into an havoc or get a group together at some time even on EU Server its dead
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and then have demotion on top of it, very fulfilling.
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Sure, I’m not arguing against any of this here. Just trying to guess what could be seen as such a great weakness in this build as to be rejected from a Havoc lobby, since it seems pretty solid overall.
I use a mod to see what build they’re trying to join with.
The LFG tool needs a class filter to limit which class can apply to your group, so people know what are you looking for…..or at least a text option to display it on the group like “LF psyker/vet” etc.
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Should just remove Mods like TrueLevel and where you can look up someones Build and what not. I like TrueLevel but has shown to only negatively impact the Game not just due to Havoc but in Auric as well constantly people crying and leaving if someone ain’t high Level enough
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It’s gatekept because somehow even people who abuse the OP stuff fail to do their role
I had countless horrendous teammates in H40
Zealots book botting inefficiently (gets book every 5 years, and still has 1/5th the Damage of the rest)
Psykers with Bubble + Inferno Staff yet they still go down to gunners
Vets who are last on special kills, and having done nothing other than being carried
Arbites who believe they’re unkillable yet somehow still go down to gunners even when they have x3 gunner curio and the many toughness regen stuff
The only ones I haven’t seen do horrendously are Ogryns but that’s a combination of how easy he is to play now and how OP he is
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