All the penance’s that relate to cosmetic rewards for the classes honestly needs to be redone, they’re completely ridiculous for what you earn which are cosmetics. They really only can be done with premade groups who have some experience and understand what you’re trying to accomplish, but some like ‘On Overwatch’ for the Veteran is nearly half pure RNG as even perfectly blocking and dashing, keeping back while also being useful for your team with some bs moments where you could dash back and still have a melee hit or have one completely silent mob enemy come up from a random hole behind you and hit you.
I mainly have one specific suggestion for ‘On Overwatch’ because Veteran is what I play, and ‘Make Every Shot Count’ while extremely difficult is more skill based and has no RNG elements than something like ‘On Overwatch’ which is seriously unfair for the Veteran’s because of a similar challenge for the Preacher’s ‘Up Close and Personal’ a identical penance that also requires malice difficulty while awarding a chest piece. The requirement for that penance is all you have to do, is simply not use your gun and as a melee class it’s actually making you focus on the main point of your class and can be accomplished by a skilled preacher.
So my suggestion is, have the exact opposite be for the ‘On Overwatch’ penance, make it so for an entire malice match you cannot use your melee weapon, it’ll still make sense name wise and makes you play to your classes strength. Not to mention a skilled Veteran can accomplish it, there is plenty of times where if you place yourself in a bad situation and get swarmed you need your melee, so by being skilled, positioning well, and hitting your targets you can get the penance, one that isn’t ridiculously difficult because you’re not at the mercy of RNG, also doesn’t require a premade just like the Preacher one. If they can have this exact same penance with a reasonable difficulty, I don’t see why the Veteran class can’t.
Like I said I only play the Veteran, so I can’t make suggestions on other classes penance’s but definitely there is plenty in the Psykers and maybe even the Preacher and Skullbreaker that can be tweaked down. In the end, this change is only reasonable considering ‘Make Every Shot Count’ is more easier to get than ‘On Overwatch’, and that’s a heresy difficult penance that awards a chest piece 10 times more gucci.
I managed to legitimately get 98% of the way for the Achievement “On Overwatch” until one of those silent mobs got me…
I don’t know how i was first man at the elevator it was clear my team covered me but suddenly i had a mob in the elevator with me on furnace…
I was devastated, absolutely crushed. Whatever Fatshark intended with this Achievement it’s not fun…
IT’S NOT FUN.
It’s frustrating and rage provoking. I beg you Fatshark give me my achievement i earned it on your conditions and im telling you, change it for the better for your community.
The post above clearly tells you how you can make it better. Just don’t use your meele weapon…
Only way to achieve this is to just cheese it. Play the game normaly up until you get to the extract. have your friends wait for you. Alt f4 and come back. This resets all your stats including melee hits. Get on the plane. Profit. They want me to do it the legit way, they need to come up with a challenge that isint comically hard.
Dunno. I did it just a few days ago during the beta. Heard it works for make every shot count as well. But lv 4 difficulty always f*cked me and the boys, so i never got to try it.
Nah they patched the cheese apparently, but yeah I play veteran and I’m just fed up of trying… psyker gets to solo a boss yet I cant miss a single shot… while regenning ammo… oh the last wave is dead? Oops my team finished off the mobs and I still have ammo. I mean its not even a comparable challenge whatsoever.
Oh I shoot at an enemy while someone else shoots it? Fail.
Oh hold off shooting anything other than ogryns/specials? Gimping your team by leaving things to hurt the others.
As for Overwatch I’m not even going to bother trying anymore, nothing makes me want to uninstall more than literally being babysat by my team while I get clipped by some random poxwalker who walks through a wall.
My suggestion is quite simple akin to how they lowered gone bowling:
Allow the veteran able to take one wound of damage akin to one of zealots challenges. It allows leniency for the person doing the challenge as it teaches them the value of staying alert while teaching them positioning as well to a degree. But, keep it locked to malice