Your responses continue to conflate my tone with the points I’m making, as if one invalidates the other. It’s worth addressing how often you accuse me of misrepresentation or rhetorical tactics while consistently shifting the focus of this conversation from ideas to personal grievances.
I ask questions to clarify, not to mislead, and your reaction to them, labeling them as “fishing for gotchas”, seems more like deflection than genuine engagement. If you’re certain about your points, why shy away from refining them when challenged?
As for your skepticism about my anecdotal evidence, let’s be real. Neither of us has comprehensive data about what the entire player base feels about Havoc. The difference is, I’ve shared an observation from actual in-game interactions. You’ve dismissed it out of hand, all while relying on your own feelings to prop up your criticism. That’s fine, but let’s not pretend either position is inherently more valid.
And yes, “skill issue” was perhaps an unnecessarily blunt remark, but let’s be honest - it was in response to the energy you brought into this exchange, dripping with condescension and dismissiveness. If we’re going to keep this productive, drop the projections about “tactics” or “tone” and focus on the ideas at hand. Otherwise, we’re just spiraling into the very internet debate trope you’re so quick to decry.
Now, if your core criticism is truly about balancing Havoc modifiers, let’s get into specifics about what you’d propose as a better alternative. Otherwise, you’re just venting about the meta without offering anything actionable, which does little to move the conversation forward.
If my tone comes across as overly analytical or pedantic, it’s not out of condescension but rather an intentional effort to remain composed and measured despite the combative tone you’ve adopted. I’m being cautious to ensure my words don’t escalate into insults or harassment.
What alternative would you prefer - should I mirror the emotional intensity you’re projecting? No, thank you. I’d rather maintain a level of civility and avoid sinking into unproductive mediocrity.
You still haven’t told me what a “real person” is or how you should be treated. I think this conversation has run its course and you haven’t had anything of value to offer the conversation anyway other than your vapid criticism.
Edit: You know what, never mind. I’ve realized I’m asking someone who thrives on being prolifically condescending on these forums to suddenly change their approach—it’s not going to happen. Frankly, I’m tired of the argumentative tone and relentless sharpness you bring to every exchange. This conversation isn’t adding any value for me, so I’m going to step away and continue enjoying Havoc, as I’ve been doing.
I genuinely hope you find a way to enjoy Darktide. It seems like your experience with the game has been largely frustrating from Day 01, and I imagine that’s exhausting. I hope things improve for you, whether it’s through changes to the game or a fresh perspective, because it’s a shame to see so much passion channeled into criticism without any joy.
