Yes.
We are now entering the “I’ll hand pick every single player who requests to join my lobby” meta.
The truth?
This entire party finder system is designed to save Fatshark the trouble of actually fixing the ‘divided playerbase’ problem. Its not a good solution, just a lazy one. Each person having their own rank and the players being divided (in Havoc) across 40 seperate tiers, means that Quickplay wasn’t going to be easy to implement.
So they did this.
Cool story.
can somebody elaborate on that please, i thought i was only getting demoted to the previous assignment if i failed 3 times
Yep.
Honestly I think if they just remove the threat of losing your tier then that will seriously help the problem, given that the wider problem is going to take a real long time to fix.
Edit: if they absolutely must have tier deteriation then it should simply be timed or based on not completed a task or set of tasks per week. Like Melks tasks that you have to complete before your havoc week is up. That would be a much fairer and nicer system than simply dying 3 times.
That’s still a pretty big deal at higher tier havoc levels as it does get pretty challenging and all that hard work can be deleted because of teammate rng.
However the exact details are not explained in the game and they themselves even call it different things on the forum to in the game. Clearance level and havoc level or whatever? Why not just have 1 level per player instead of this weird 2 level system.
If I lose 3 games I hosted then all the hard work to gain that level is deleted. If you get teamates who are not great or drop out then you will be punished. It’s a dreadful system.
Luckily I just did a level 28 which was pretty damn easy. Got my trousers! Then the next level was 29 on Gloriana. We actually survived that first room really well but the gunners in the next bit after the horizontal lift deleted all of us in seconds whilst we were fighting a spawn. The toughness nerf is really horrible. The game has no cover and no cover system so gunners are now the biggest threat unless you have a shield psycher (who is a requirement imo).
cough
i lost 2 hosted level 22 in a row due to players leaving, and couldn’t trio that with the hand i was dealt with
i still don’t understand if i get locked from hosting or just demoted to the previous assignment
i guess i’ll just have to find out myself
it says Deployments until Demotion
not much explainatory but my take was that i was only getting demoted
Being demoted because of teammate rng sucks however it demoted you.
If you work it out then please share on forums as FS are allergic to giving players information in-game.
Fyi I can confirm it is ONLY the host who loses 1 of their 3 ‘strikes’ when a mission fails.
I just played in a few high tier games and we played damn good but got very unlucky at the same section both times. I did not lose one of my strikes on either loss.
I have, to date, only lost one of my strikes from losing on one of my hosted games.
Makes no sense whatsoever but FS logic.
Yep, that’s the worst way to increase the difficulty
Welcome back (if you played Vermintide) to last weaves where one arrow kills you
Weaves failed for this too and still Fatshark has choosen this path again
Makes griefing and running with pubs even more fun. This fact alone pretty mich kills whatever little use the party finder had. If you don’t have a full stack you’re basically gambling on a loss.
This gets even worse at higher havoc levels when the pubbies rush ahead and trigger bosses, extra waves and captains at the worst possible moment.
You’ve basicall got a free check for griefing with havoc.
Other problem is probably a lot of people only play up to 25 for the outfit. So those people (like me) can’t even host their own matches since you only get the helmet for “helping” others complete their assignment, so I can’t even think about opening my party and just go for it since I sure as F~ do not wanna play more then 50 missions via partyfinder.
Yeah I’ve been playing around havoc 20-23 today. I’m done. Its killed all enjoyment for me now.
I’ve been playing this game quite happily as my Veteran for almost 3 years. Everything about Havoc just drives me away.
1: The modifiers are miserable.
2: The whole dynamic of building a team makes me miserable, since I don’t like hand-picking players from a list and the UI is absolutely vile to use.
3: The demotion mechanic can get f***ed.
4: And I sure as hell am not doing another 40-50 games to get the cosmetics. Screw that grind.
Just mute Havoc.
I see no reason to even try Havoc.
Respect.
Just to add you can also be vote kicked at the very end of a round too and gain nothing from it. First time being griefed by that in a 38 havoc seemed extra toxic.
Worth mentioning too… demotion/punishment/loss of time because of the game’s INSANE amount of bugs this patch causing DCs, crashes and in game issues like lags, input delays, buggy spawns, vet power sword still doesn’t power special half the time, trappers shoot through obstacles we get an invis block around, error 3450927(insert number players shouldn’t need to worry about cos gaming not tech support), fps drops… on and on…
Ass spawning 12 silent crushers all anim synced in the same slot is not a challenge… it’s broken. And these issues make an AuMa an almost unplayable throwaway, for havoc these issues are disastrous!
The skins, maybe, but they require such a large investment of games played if you want all three parts. Even if you only do 5-10 havocs (wins, that is) per week, it’ll still take 10 weeks to get two of the three parts. The third requires you to join another player’s party and help them win, and you can only do that for those with the same (or worse) Havoc rating than you.
