FoTF is not griefing nor underperforming in Havoc tho?
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A lot of people seem to think that FotF or stealth = Egomaniac crackhead speedrun Zealot.
It’s pointless is what it is. You bring nothing to the table that other class can not, and then some more.
You can bring big dmg
With book I end up with 1m 1.2m on avg, FoTF puts me around 1.6m 2m, it’s not bad at all
(Propaganda incoming) Just abuse Relentless Strikes on the precious DS and you melt everything with them crits and boss dmg heeh
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Right, because DS4 is a correct measuring stick.
It’s a good metric havoc specific yeah
What’s the point to complain about class effectiveness in Havoc if you’re not bringing the best?
”You bring nothing as FoTF Zealot”
”Oh but you’re abusing DS4”
Like are you serious rn?
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Having to use the most overtuned weapon in the history of the game does not make zealot good, quite the contrary.
Yes, I am serious.
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Not even mentioning the fact, if you run into a fury zealot on havoc, chances are, they have several hundred hours in the class, and would perform even better on anything else.
Your average pug zealot on havoc has by far the least contribution to the success of the run.
I don’t know what to tell you other than disagreed here, Ogryns and Arbys are OP, Zealot/Vet only have DS to be that level of OP as well
Is it not fair to compare all classes at their min-max potential when talking about Havoc?
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Well yeah, because most don’t know how to properly build, surprising considering Zealot has the simplest tree to min-max
Also because most players don’t have a high weakspot acc, which is kinda what enables DS to maybe be Ogryn/Arby levels of good
I mean, yesn’t?
If you mean anything else confined to Zealot itself, then sure using book but dealing less damage is “safer” and “more reliable”. But FoTF allows you to deal insane damage, with the possibility to surprass Ogryn/arby if your aim is good enough
If you mean other classes then that is kinda silly, cuz you can still deal most damage with FoTF
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Exactly, while providing nothing else but damage. No nades to rezz with, no limitless ogryn ragdoll or near invincibility with CS spam, no dog to trivialize game mechanics, or the most OP nades in the game.
But hey, you can at least run away very fast and attempt to “clutch” instead of having been able to prevent the situation requiring you to do so.
Can you make zealot shine on havoc? Absolutely, havoc is not exactly hard at this point. Will it be the optimal choice unless you accept the fact that you are best utilized as a walking chorus + flamer? Never.
I am trying so hard not to be toxic in majority of these posts but yall just complain to complain.
My solution to that problem is to just not use zealot on havoc, my most played class at nearly lvl1900 mind you. In a premade anything goes, but I respect my pugs enough not to run whacky builds with.
Not everything is about you my man.
Nope.
Are you complaining about the complaining to complain posts?
Username checks out. /s ?
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I run holy renevant
this is the best ability in the game, bar none. Anyone not running it is just very unwise.
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If Havoc isn’t hard than why does it matter if someone brings the optimal choice or not?
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Because 90% of the players are rather bad at the game.
You call Havoc easy but you also don’t seem to understand utility/positioning a class can provide beyond ability usage like chorus. If you have 1900 levels in Zealot alone and think FotF is a whacky/troll build, I’m genuinely curious to see your gameplay because I don’t think you’re as good as you think.
Also to preface on this post I’m not saying Chorus/Flamer is bad, my main issue with Havoc Zealots is that the majority of them are inexperienced mechanically, and don’t know how to build Zealot (taking useless talents/skipping good ones) despite being in Havoc 40 which gets pretty annoying.
Fury zealot offers zero utility my man, exactly the issue with. Anything it can bring into a team environment is not unique / valuable enough to warrant picking it over anything else, making it objectively the worst choice for havoc.
Raw dmg is not utility, nor is it an asset, everyone does copious amount of it now. If dmg becomes an issue on your havoc runs, it’s a user error, not class related.
I expected the personal insults to come out later, but you cut right to the chase. Hit me up, I’m not hard to find, than you can judge for yourself 