Havoc Assignment Rank 40 players can still loose (1) rank if they do not interact with Havoc at all during the week (from one Weekly Reset to the next).
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Skill issue man there is a small bit of us at 40 but more will be now without derank sure its harder with random people but there is some out there perfectly capable as I hardly play with premades and still win its not impossible just harder without coordination and meta abilities.
Could simply remove derank entirely but nah..
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Woo hoo canāt wait to try build variety in havoc 40s now without making losing punishable I love it
I beg you to add a limit on how many bosses can spawn at a time in havoc, 5 bosses at once is not fun to face at clearance 20.
Thatās the thing, Havoc is a cooperative gamemode, but the weekly decay and three-strikes-youāre-out system sounds to me like itās trying to be ranked and leaderboarded. I also think 40 havoc ranks is just way too much, and it would be much better served with just four ranks.
Weekly decay I could do without. I donāt think itās an effective mechanism for keeping players where theyāre efficient along the 1-40 span. But with the derank changes, Iām pretty happy with the system. Derank does add tension and stakes, not unlike my mod Hardtide. And I like that.
I also like rising up the ranks, and honestly look forward to future seasons with a different feel/challenge/meta. The feeling of progression up the ranks wouldnāt be possible with just 4. And in reality, it feels like a pretty smooth gradient within the different difficulty tiers.
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This is exactly the problem. You either have to find someone to join whose mission is one higher than yours or sit for a week and wait for your mission to change. Last week my mission was gloriana and i refused to try and play that map in havoc with randoms so it just sat there. I never saw a 25 mission so I didnt do much in havoc and I only had one try left before demoting anyway. Incredibly stupid system that basically promotes you not playing. If you dont like a map or a modifier you either risk it and lose three times with randoms and demote or you wait for your map to reset. Id like to play havoc but you rarely ever find the missions your looking for and I just end up going back to the auric board. Its so easy to lose those 3 chances you get before you demote id rather just not even play after the second try. I mean hell you can lose two havoc mission in like 20 minutes.
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I have no update in steam even if I restart steam / turn off the VPN or restart the PC, and when I go in the game it tells me that I have an outdated version of the game. My time zone is +3
@Ueban Please see the solutions here:
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This is kinda the fundamental crux of the problems with Havoc. A ranked, decaying ladder is a mechanism appropriate to a ranked competitive mode, but as you noted Havoc is not a ranked competitive mode, itās a Coop PvE experience, one where that rank is basically invisible outside the Party Finder, meaning itās basically acting as a Gacha-esque retention mechanism in this case, much like Melk used to be but with even more feelsbad.
Likewise, the heavy emphasis on the use of the Party Finder feels extremely forced, and it appear most players are actually forming groups using outside tools (primarily Discord) as the PF is deader than dead most hours of the day and even at peak times one can typically count the number of groups in the PF on one hand with fingers to spare.
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Iām afraid I must inform you that I still cannot give Sefoni flowers. Please fix.
Rank is not a problem in Havoc, you can see everyoneās rank in the party finder, but yes I agree that decay is unnecessary and probably just a (very weak) retention mechanism.
Also I have exclusively been using the party finder to match with randos. Whether I start my own party or join someone elseās, I have yet to wait more than a couple of minutes for a full team. And all of my teams, with just a couple of exceptions, have stayed together for at least one additional match.
Thank you. Clearing the cache helped
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Only five? That was only a Fading Light 1 I guess 
Is there any news on the issue where PS5 users in mixed groups need to restart darktide between every mission?
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I was really hoping for a fix to the character select bug that every Ps5 player has after every Havoc run, we have to reboot the game after every attempt, i raised this 2 weeks ago and was assured via email ( Julia ) that the bug was already in the database and was being investigated, any news on this at all would be appreciated.
Iām chasing this up - Iāll keep you posted. 
Edit: Iāve created a pinned post dedicated to this issue, where Iāll share any updates.
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Very nice
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