Grail Knight Feedback (mostly Legend / Cata)

First off, I want to say I love this hero, I think he has some very interesting talents, the quest system is super cool and new, he feels possibly the least cookie cutter out of all of the sub-classes thus far (imo)

Both weapons are very cool looking, the skins on them are pretty fantastic, and they are also pretty darn good especially the Long-sword. The Riposte on charged attack is insanely cool, and honestly I wish more weapons had unique functionality like this.

The sword and shield option is pretty good as well, it has a fairly nice attack pattern and coupled with the crit instakill talent can be devastating in the right situation.

In terms of balance I think he has the potential to be an absolute melee powerhouse, with good sustain, and group buffs which should make him welcome in almost any party. The lack of range is of course a massive downside, but I think the damage output between potential insta kills and his boss damage via his active compensate accordingly.

I think a lot of the talents are viable, although a few stand out as exceptional for higher difficulties.
The double strike ulti can be insanely useful esp cause you can block cancel it, perhaps over the cleave which has sticking issues, and may not be as useful since you already have good melee cleave / stagger options.

His crit kill talent is insane, honestly one of the best talents in the game (stack crit or crit power and just dumpster elites for days)

I think this is a very balanced, well designed and cool hero, if the other careers in the future can keep up, I think this is a move in the correct direction for the game as a whole, and im very excited to see more. Kudos! Great Job this time FS

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I’m really glad he isn’t power crept like crazy. He feels like a really good balance of Elite Killer/Support/Frontline(CC). Merc will end up being better in the long run, but that’s just because his Ultimate is bonkers.

How do you feel about the double charged slam he does? I haven’t played enough of him to see if it’s learnable or just annoying.

From what I’ve seen, he definitely has the most decent and balanced talent tree, with all options being good (except the generic ones like enhanced power or healshare). I’d say that his ultimate is quite ridiculous though. The fact that he oneshots CW’s up to Cataclysm, with his basic ult or even just the sweep, while also being able to sweep through hordes and berserkers, with such a low cooldown, is ridiculous.

Idk, compared to shade active it seems fine, plus he doesn’t have any ranged so being that absurd in melee, is probably deserved, more so for GK than Shade imo.

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It’s a shorter cooldown, plus it can cleave through several monks, maulers, chaff enemies, and you don’t have to aim or position at all basically. It just feels really really cheap seeing CW’s get oneshotted on Cata by an ult talent that’s meant to be horde clear focused.

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I dont even use the AOE one, I think the double stab is way better most of the time

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I agree that GK deserves it more than Shade, but I do think both of these careers, and a few others (mainly double shotted Bounty Hunter), have it too easy when it comes to Chaos Warriors.

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They’re not even just Chaos Warriors, they’re Nurgle Chaos Warriors. Fighting and killing them should be a grueling and drawn out affair. They effectively last as long as Bestigors at this point, who they insultingly get knocked over by too. They’re too easily bullied with stagger as well.
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I would agree if you werent forced to fight like 50 of them

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It’s kind of silly how spammed they are. It’s a shame, I personally wanted them to be mini bosses in their own right (that’s probably me being too fussed with the lore I suppose), but in the current game balance I do think they should at least require specialist builds to deal so much damage and stagger to them. Generalists like WHC, Merc, even Handmaiden make short work of them, and the more specific damage dealers shred them to bits.

Besides, it would make actually finishing Cata FoW very cool.

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I do agree a lot with Revi here. And it’s great that even weapons are kinda balanced around what a 2h sword should probably do. I really wouldn’t touch his ult, as right now, doing less damage will really hurt him, as a melee only char.

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If using the talent with a follow-up he can two shot Böddvar with a strength potion. He’s like a reverse Shade where the armor damage is extreme but unarmored not so much. By two-shot I really mean one and a half-shot. It was ridiculous.

edit: legend diff. for reference.

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