losing every stack just sucks - how about a compromise and you lose 1 stacks per miss??? or maybe they decay slowly?
On one hand yes I get it, it’s frustrating and unfun to play around.
On the other hand, the blessing was balanced specifically around this mechanic which is why it gives more power than the competitors (Headtaker up to 25% but with reliable uptime on everything, Slaughterer 40% but only reliable on hordes while Decimator is up to 50% on all targets).
I wouldn’t mind if it was a bit less punishing, but then a decrease in power would have to follow suit.
Decimator is the best blessing… you just need to train with it.
But, if you don’t like it, go for headtaker
The only weapon you don’t have both is the sapper shovel.
Tip: chained hit doesn’t mean only light swings… you can use heavy hit.
Yeah I thought the same at first, then I tested it in auric and it just deletes hordes as well as give you insane impact to stagger maulers and rangers. The key is: a chained hit hitting multiple enemies generates multiple stacks. So four swings in a horde and you have 7+ stacks which is all you need to outperform all other blessings.
I did not know this. That changes everything.
it was true… from my tests it is not anymore
Or Brutal momentum forbids it…
Will test this evening
By the way, when I say it is the best blessing, I mean the best strength blessing.
Because, BM is, of course the best blessing for a combat axe, by example.
But on any weapon that has decimator, this is always the best strength blessing.
I cannot record any video… it was working, now the result is absolutely ugly (we see squares… the video is in correct resolution, but it looks like 800x600 upscaled). Tried OBS, tried Nvidia… same result.
Don’t know why.
But, I have tested… and yes, you can kill 5 groaners, it count as only 1 more decimator stack.
I must say that, in my opinion, this is better for balance.
Could have sworn that went away all the way back around patch 13.
I tend to agree it could afford to be a bit more forgiving around stack loss. Like -3 stacks per whiff instead of fully gone? -5 even if people think that’s still too generous? I don’t personally think that would require a bonus nerf a balance out.
Just tested in the psykhanium with shovel heavies. Only one stack
Multi-stacking on cleaves would have been a really good alternative to any changes to drop-off.
Well it definitely did at one point (worth noting push attacks also reset stacks back then) and honestly my memory is it simply outclassed basically everything else pretty hard. I’d hesitantly say I’d be against that returning, it really did make it incredibly free, which it probably shouldn’t be with its high amount of power given.
I will qualify that most of my experience with this version of it was on Caxe.
I use decimator pretty often
The change is here for a lot of time. And this doesn’t change the value of this blessing. It is still the best strength blessing you can pick.
Sidenote: Actually I have gone to decapitator cause it is better for critical builds… and sadly, everything is done to encourage you to go for critical builds on zealot. You loose too much damage output if you don’t go for critical… and decapitator increases finesse.
But still, on an antax, if you want to not pick BM, you should use decimator and whatever other strength blessing.
I suppose my thinking was more that I wouldn’t care about the drop-off if it stacked that fast. Probably too good, you’re right.
I’m pretty sure push attacks still reset it. Or I’m a terrible shot and whiff all my push attacks.
It resets yes…
If you don’t chain, it resets. Anything you would like to do between 2 hits, will reset the stacks.
Blocking reset the stacks also.
Dodging does not.
all the training in the world won’t stop team mates from exploding something I’m mid swing against.
i’d take that in a heartbeat, because yes, I’ll confirm, you only get 1 stack per swing.
Sounds like user error. Have you tried not missing?
Several would say that’s normal etc.
I won’t
That’s exactly why I don’t stay with a group, cause of stupid guys that help you by killing the stuff you are engaging with and… as a result, are actively trying to kill you (I point the guy that thinks he is “helping” you, not the enemies)
Sorry man, i’m no loner zealot, just a guy looking for a blessing to not be milquetoast in a group setting ]=