Nevertheless I’ll add the question if the completely functionless Psyker node Penetration of the Soul will be fixed by this update, because if such severe bugs that are marked as “acknowledged” (twice!) haven’t been fixed after almost half a year and multiple hotfixes, I find it appropriate to ask about them after the announcement of a major update, and CMs have been acting as intermediaries between the players and the devs before, like in this very case.
I wouldn’t be this tenacious if this dead node wouldn’t practically deprive Psykers of one talent point if they want to use Warp Syphon, because the alternative node Empyric Resolve is so bad that almost nobody takes it anyway.
Kind of cringe, considering Quell cancel was a niche mechanic that casuals never even used—maybe macro users made it a bit strong, sure.
But for those who actually took the time to master the timing, manage peril, dodge enemies, and peel for their team, this is such a letdown. It dumbs down Psyker gameplay so much—just hold M2, release on cue, zero skill involved.
Quell-cancelling (edit: to achieve stupid damage) was becoming more and more widespread, and people complained about it constantly…and rightly so. It’s way too effective, easily achievable via mod or macro, and absolutely annoying to see.
It was common enough that it was a serious issue, far from niche.
Hel, there’s a crappy “mod” on nexus that’s basically the most perfunctory collection of Razer Synapse macros a monkey can slap together, but it also includes the quell exploit.
Edit: even the least tech-saavy monkey can do this with any macro software, including what came with their own mice. They are now just aware of it more due to crap like this and lame-ass cheaty streamers giving the thumbs up.
Wouldn’t you know it, a popular sockpuppeting streamer here endorsed it months ago, and people label it “accessibility” as a smokescreen for the cheaty exploit abuse.
So, it (edit: all cheaty mods) gained even more popularity and became more widespread since it’s endorsed by streamer(s) and “WeLL It’S on NeXUSs so it’S AppROVed” so it’s (edit: ALL cheaty mods are) whitewashed and normalized.
TLDR the quell cancel cheaty exploit should have been plugged ages ago.
People see others able to spam LMB and figure out how to do it because it’s so damn OP. No mystery there, no streamers (how many people watch DT streamers?) or Nexus to blame. 447 people have downloaded the “Wrist Saver” macro “mod” for Razer mice (lol) on Nexus…that’s 0.26% of the people who have downloaded the mod loader.
This was always FS’s issue to address – something only possible due to the critical/core action-cancelling functionality in the game – and they’re thankfully implementing a fix now.
had one guy using this in a game a few days ago, suspected it immediately when i saw him cast a solid line of plasma balls. it just doesn’t work that way no matter how quick you press.
If we look at Havoc, it infact goes from around “Heresy” to “Damnation +7” difficulties.
And if we look how the Penance Track is set up (which is the only real progression in the game), you can clearly see that to progress along it you’ll need to engage with all aspects of the game, including Malestrom, Special assignments and Havoc.
Even if they intended it as a sweat mode, the problem then is they once again implemented it badly (same as they did with Auric Maelstrom).
The fact these modes have penances tied to them is going to be an issue further down the line. Its not like everyone will still be running Havoc for a few hours every day a year from now. Same with Special Assignments. Its really sad because these things would be obvious to anyone who played Weaves in Vermintide 2. Or, you know, developed the game.
As for the mode being some kind of super challenging content, lets be real, its meaningless when the people you run it with inevitably end up being Zealots running DS, flamer and BoF, and Psykers running dome and an LMB spam macro. Any real achievement is rendered moot, and not even necessarily by your own doing.
Just like the old ASS? Is this another ASS situation? You know, before they fixed ASS? Although one could argue the damage to ASS has been done and is irreparable, and that no one will ever respect an ASS. A right shame to anyone who has or will get ASS legitimately. Hunting for ASS is no easy feat mind you, it took me months of grinding to get ASS! And for what? I have ASS and don’t even use it. May as well be ASS-less.
If we dont get new weapons in this update I might just lose my mind because were just going to assume we will have to wait another 4 months for more weapons. Give ogryn and veteran more weapons and give psyker a new staff obese fish.
Get ready, take some vitamin C and B12, do more sungazing and run a 5km to dopaminemaxx before the release of the official patchnote, otherwise you will be disappointed:
Ogryn’s minor fix, a handful of useless weapons become low tier, new mode gets hyped for 2 weeks then abandonned.
See you in 3 months for a set of new weapon marks and a new map to kill vanilla mobs.