Intro
I have been playing this game since its beta, I buy almost every skin in this game, so I can call myself a true fan and a full-fledged supporter! There is a problem that has persisted in this game since its release - it is the lack of enough ammo!
Description
Okay, I understand that you have Vermintide, in which the gameplay is focused on close combat and any weapon is equally effective and it is not limited by anything, but in Darktide my gameplay is 80 percent based on long-range combat, I want to SHOOT! My wife, for example, does not want to go play Darktide because she is forced to fight with a shovel! Personally, I play in different modes, I have 900 hours in the game at the time of writing the post and the only reason why I sometimes give up on the game is that I can’t shoot… Firstly, even close combat is very limited, I tested all the weapons in the game and more than half of the weapons are simply useless on high difficulty levels, what’s the point of keeping them in the game then? Now about ranged weapons, many weapons are quite balanced and versatile BUT, some weapons require more ammo than others and such weapons just don’t want to take! Because of all this, I can go to a high difficulty level with only one type of weapon because the veteran perks allow you to do this!
Final words
To ​​the commentators who see no problem and say that I should not shoot, I answer… Are you serious? I should not shoot in a game about shooting? So for close combat, I’ll just go play Vermintide and that’s it, why should I return to the game if it takes away from me the gameplay that is interesting to me? I want to feel like Doom Guy, not Assassin!
Fatshark I really hope that 3 years after the release, you will still listen to your fans and other players and do something about the ammo! It’s not fair that 4 ogrins can play because they are tanks and can not leave close combat, but 4 veterans can not, because they simply do not have enough AMMO!
I just wanted to point out that there are weapons with virtually endless ammo, such as infantry lasguns, plasma, laspistols, braced autoguns, recon lasguns, and infantry auto autoguns.
If you play as a Vet with any form of las weapon and select the node that returns las ammo on crit and Survivalist aura, you can basically complete the whole mission entirely with your ranged weapon.
There are always times when you have to switch to melee, like dealing with carapace or horde clear, but you can more or less have 95% uptime on your ranged weapon.
Speaking about Vermintide 2, both Engineer and Bounty Hunter can be mostly shootie bois.
Also, you melee in Doom (glory kills) to regain health, and old shooter games like Duke Nukem 3D, Hexen, Heretic, Blood, Doom, Quake, Unreal, Wolfenstein, Turok, and others all had melee weapons that you were expected to utilize.
It’s like with people who play with plasma and say that their plasma is imba and they have enough ammo for everything, but they spend 80 percent of the game running around with a dueling sword.
So we play completely different games! If you don’t have problems - it absolutely doesn’t mean that others don’t have these problems! Personally, I have a problem with ammo from the release of the game, as I wrote at the beginning of the post and no perks or crits help me! And I see that this problem is not only mine but many others!
this game is a hybrid with melee combat, unlike VT2. In my experience, unless you’re playing Havoc, you won’t run out of ammo. In fact, if you have even one Psyker on my team, i’ll usually have more than enough ammo. if anything, ammo should be reduced.
you’re not the kind of player who mindlessly unloads a bolter into mobs or mutants, are you?
I’m not joking, there are surprisingly many low-skill players, even in Auric missions, who actually play like that…
You would do well to get better at the melee combat. You are likely having issues because you are trying to play the game in a way thats not entirely intended. Its not a ranged shooter game. Its a melee/shooter hybrid.
The game is not “about” shooting! Youre wrong here.
It relies heavily on melee combat. I see people rely on guns in this game all the time and the majority of players that do that suffer.
Occasionally someone comes along who is amazing at ranged. I saw it in Vermintide 2 as well, doesnt happen often tho.
Please listen to the people of the this thread, they are telling you that ranged only is not optimum for tide games.
any many others evolved past ammo management, especially playing since launch.
you tell me you try the same thing over and over for 900 hours and NOT come to the conclusion to adapt in your playstyle?
how is the game to blame then?
even in havoc people manage with what they got and dont run out, C I VI you got your starter ammo count, thats it still people keep some left for important encounters.
you might very well, but the game is telling you at every empty supply crate “conserve your ammo”
sign on the bridge says “no jumping” i dont pity the skeletons at the bottom
I will not listen to people here, my post is for the developers. I understand that there are people who have their own opinion, but I do not agree with it. I want to be able to use the weapons that are in the game and the game mechanics, me and my friends are pissed off that the game limits us, either remove the weapons from the game, or fix the game. Commentators who think that there are no problems, I am not interested.
God, even this post has so many stupid commentators) Go to Twitch and look! Do you see at least one veteran with a revolver? Or with a chainsword? No! Because it’s a useless weapon, the revolver doesn’t have enough ammo, and the chainsword doesn’t have enough damage, etc. No need to write nonsense here! The game has a problem with ammo, that’s for sure! I can’t shoot at the horde with a bolter? What kind of stupid nonsense is this? Do you know what ranged weapons are for? To avoid fighting up close!!! Look at how such weapons are used in real life! Any weapon should be able to be fired at anything and at any time!
Thats fine, but you are very much in the wrong. Its like complaining about people tackling in football games, or having corners in racing games.
Your complaint is about a fundamental element of Darktide. Melee combat is central to the game. I agree that Darktide has more shooting than Vermintide, its still heavily melee focused.
Please listen to me when I say, people in Darktide and other Tide games who attempt to only use ranged weapons suffer. Iv seen it for years. Other long term players are also telling you this.
If you dont listen to that then dont be surprised after publicly announcing your wrong opinion that people shoot you down