Well, this is as good of a moment as any. But seeing the ripples the GK is striking I think it is a suggestion which has some merits as currently the discussions are once again all over the place.
As it is tradition in any gaming forum we spend far to much time arguing which each other about stupid stuff. The most discussed threads are usually those concerning balance (weapons, talents, difficulties, just take your pick). Some are discussed more often than others. With the coming summer hole (due to Swedish holidays and vacation time) I would suggest a forum project:
Discussion Weeks [Careers]
The idea is simple. Starting on a date, yet to be determined, one of us creates a thread about one of the careers. While I don’t think a template is necessary it should cover the following points.
- General blabla, strenghts and weaknesses, active skill
- Talents row by row: Thoughts on current state and primary suggestions for change
- General thoughts concerning talent, passives, synergies,
- Thoughts about changes which have been dismissed or not chosen as primary suggestion
General idea for talent discussion is formost to tweak the existing ones (as in less work for FS). Only if you can’t imagine any niche situation where the talent has its place you should suggest a rework over a tweak. Also please avoid suggesting reworks just because the talent is “lackluster”. Also general idea is to tone something down if certain talents or careers overperform because they are filling more than just a niche (too god in to many things).
As said earlier, I would suggest that one community member makes a pitch for his analysis and vision in a thread he opens (label: Discussion Weeks - Mercenary for instance). And each community member should do at max ONE pitch, so we would need 15 people in total preparing this. Based on the initial pitch the rest of us can weight in on the discussion for one week. After this week, the thread will be LOCKED.
How do we determine who does which career? Well, since I have neither the means nor the motivation to organized this to detail level and to check if person xyz has ample enough experience with said career we will go with the most classic and traditional way of solving this: Dips on … With this said, IF we are doing this I call hereby dips on the pitch for Unchained (because I sure as hell will get a brain aneurysm if I have to read this from someone else). You can of course negotiate with dips holder if he wants to forfeit his pitch or do this together.
What would still to be discussed (aside from people claiming spots right here and now) is the timetable as when to start (I would say earliest 13th of July and latest 1st of August) and how many threads per week we want to manage. To keep some kind of sanity and overview I would suggest a limitation. Possible are:
- One per week => Which would mean this takes 4 months, that is quite long
- Two per week => Meaning 2 months which seems appropriate to me
- One character per week => 5 Weeks but speaking about all three of Kerillians or Krubers careers in one week seems exhausting, I would personally prefer some variations
So, why so complicated you ask. Simple, as said before balance threads will come and go naturally. But it makes sense to these things which belong together in one giant concerted action where we know when which discussion will appear (and which we can easily search up due to a shared label). Additionally, there are some classes which are nearly never discussed in detail (like did we have a dedicated thread in the last nine months concerning just Shade/Mercenary/Zealot?). Also it gives different people the chance to make a pitch and to get different perspectives instead of only the same three or four people complaining about something.
With this said, let’s make some polls because I never did a poll here in the forum:
Is there a general interest in a concerted balance related career discussions
- Yes, this seems like an interesting approach.
- No, we will do our threads like always
We should do
- One career per week
- Two careers per week
- One character per week
We will start
- As early as possible on July 13th
- Later, so the first pitchs have some time
So, after reading through all this, feel free:
- to ignore anything I said
- to do some comments
- to call dips on career xyz
Again, I call dips on Unchained (I think for most part she is good, but if we are doing this anyway, I do it myself).
Special Sidenote: Don’t you find it weird how so many of us say that they have no interest in PvP, yet we argue each day/week in this forum. It’s weird, isn’t it? Also, I finally understand those bad action movies where characters change “teams” every five minutes.