true, but wasn’t this like.. always been the case? even in old damantion?
Sister of the thorn but they made it an entire separate class lmao
I think you are articulating what I want to say much better than I have. Thanks
Well damn, that is a skilled psyker. The only time he went down the entire mission was to Perils of the Warp.
That said, there’s definitely credit to everyone else too, that Vet was doing heavy lifting with that shout, power sword, shredder nades and plasma gun combo.
That combo with a skilled player certainly takes the melee pressure off the psyker and allows him to focus on elites from range.
right, but i wouldn’t bring it in pubs
Agreed! I tried running a similar build once with knife, surge staff, BB and shriek in pubs.
Lack of cleave is a big problem with that type of build, and if there aren’t players doing heavy lifting in melee then the situation can get put of control pretty fast.
Yeah, havoc is not good for diversity.
It’s quite literally designed for the opposite of that.
If you want to make less meta loadouts work, you need to make up for with with skill. That’s just the way it is.
If you want diversity for viable loadouts, there’s different gamemodes.
I’d argue that if only a couple builds are viable, either there’s something wrong with the mode which emphasizes that and tailors to specific talents, or a talent tree is really just a badly designed set of false choices and should be rebuilt as a much simpler model. I think in DT’s case, there’s bothsome column A and some column B.
Not really. Psyker is quite self-sufficent in regular damnation. You have to be careful but you can generally take a little toughness chip damage from trash mobs while charging a staff or prioritising elites, and then regen it back. In damn psyker is also very capable in melee.
Given that even a poxwalker is a lethal threat in havoc, you simply cannot risk engaging in melee. Thus we are shoehorned into playing flamer as its the only self-sufficient build.
Psyker is trash clearer, supporter, field control unit. If psyker know his role - u not need to fight boss.
having less room for error doesn’t mean you can’t do it
also, psyker has great boss damage because he can use ds4. every build does great boss damage with a ds4 in it. force greatsword is also pretty big here. he can also still put 31 fire stacks on bosses like ogryn used to if there’s elites around the bosses and/or with scream
he should have more options though sure
It was, yes. I agree. I think it just is brought out to more of an extreme in Havoc. The extent of it seems to have pushed more psyker players off the difficulty cliff in my experience.
I will concede it’s not like I have any statistics on this, just my own in-game experience recently and OP appears to seeing the same thing I do.
It would be interesting to see what sorts of stats Fatshark has on class deaths on +30 Havoc, say.
And then it turns out to be Zealot just because its the most played in Havoc
surely the stats would be collected per difficulty
Probably true in absolute numbers, it would be more interesting to get the statistics as a percentage of class players.
funny cause i’m hosting level 40s back to back and getting no zealots