Considering you just dismissed everything I said with an untrue assumption I felt it was appropriate
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Auric Maelstroms have Nurgle’s Blessing and thus you cannot stun two rooms. Your claim was invalid and not congruent with the topic I was referring to. Smite does nothing to weaker monstrosities. People using Smite to coast their way through AMs will not succeed past these points and will summarily get destroyed.
That’s the abundantly clear part.
Perhaps, you can respond again without being so snarky and immature, like the response you gave earlier?
These are not present in every Auric Maelstrom. And just because someone uses smite doesn’t always mean they coast through everything, it can be a good player (although rare). Even in situations where those modifiers are present, completely immobilizing massive groups of enemies like that is a little insane. Additionally for Nurgle’s Blessing, ideally as the Psyker you will at least be close to team mates who will kill those enemies.
On top of everything else, I just don’t find it very compelling, even if used as a tool to knock over enemies.
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I see ppl saying they dont think brain burst is good and then find out they arnt using the middle keystone. Imo brain burst NEEDS to be used with the middle keystone or it will feel slow. If you havent tried it go try it its goated. get the modifier where u gain a charge on elite kills and you can wipe a rager patrol with brain burst soooo quick and just remove every gunner off the map
Apparently, you have not seen the surge staff in use, since october last year…
It got changed in patch 13.
At the same time as smite got introduced.
There has been no point in time, at which both existed and were functionally the same.
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My issue with Smite is that what it does doesn’t suit what the name brings to mind. It should be a full-on, sudden, wrath-of-the-Emperor lightning strike, not a constant, over-time electrical massage.
To give a slightly different take other than just tweaking primary blitz use, personally i would love it if they leaned a bit harder into passive toggles on the blitzes (or added them to the ones that don’t have one yet).
As a concept, they expand on passive blitz use options so you could make the choice to mainly trigger your blitzes passively.
If we lean into the passive BB theme, a similar thing could be done for assail, give it a chance (or auto-cast?) to proc a kine shield on wall/bubble cast that pulls your available shards into a circling dagger shield that will auto-attack anything that gets close (even if that means they get wasted on a crusher etc).
For smite I’m having some issues due to the nature of the skill, but maybe give it a way to proc if you take melee/toughness damage or on kill (via staff/force sword only?), and have cast go off that’ll function like a single regular smite quck cast with more of a stagger effect rather than a continuous smite lockdown cast.
Alternately, make these passive triggers an optional peril safety valve that can trigger when/if you overload on peril to to have a passive version of what shriek offers, make it the psyker’s version of Until Death that can go off every 30s or so if you overload on peril.
Might make leaning into high peril a bit more fun too and give another option for interacting with the peril cap outside of shriek.
This is obviously just spitballing ideas on what to do with blitzes as a concept, not saying the above examples are mechanically balanced or anything, just an idea/example that would make the psyker blitzes feel a bit more integraded into the overall toolkit and letting you utilize them outside of sitting in “main blitz” cast mode while leaning into the psyker lore/feel a bit more.
Reaaaaaly?
Both electric, both hit multiple targets and spread.
What they did was, take away from the staff and give it the blitz and expand on it.
What they should have done was put some effort in and created blessings for the surge staff that made it more like the blitz. Especial as Surge only has 3 tier 4 blessing. They neutered the staff to make the blitz.
Smite needs removing, surge staff needs a massive buff and blessing.
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Oh noooo. Guess that means they are COMPLETELY identical.
All guns shoot bullets, hit a few enemies and do not spread.
That means all guns need replacing completely with something else, since they COMPLETELY overlap with each other.
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Good one.
Talk complete bs and then call me a child, when i show you how dumb it was.
How is expanding the Surge staff blessing of just 3 tier 4 and actually having a new smite that is completely unique BS.
When how they are now they are far to similar as they are now and to make them almost the same takes one blessing for the surge
You are talking BS, they are too close.
Electricity = electricity!
There are absolutely no properties which could ever differenciate one kind of electricity from another…
Lightning and the electrical signals in your own body are 100% alike after all…
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Stop acting like a smug child, who thinks they are right.
Anyone can see both are electrical based attacks that spread. One’s been neutered so the other can exist. You said so yourself.
“Apparently, you have not seen the surge staff in use, since october last year…
It got changed in patch 13.
At the same time as smite got introduced.”
Smite shouldn’t have exist, it required neutering of something else so it could exist, when really, they should have used blessing to expand upon the staff and come up with something fresh.
Smite is an appalling lazy rehash of an existing mechanic, when really it should have something completely unique akin to brain rupture and assail.
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Seriously though, what’s your problem?
Surge staff was changed in functionallity so that smite can exist, is that the point here? Where’s the problem?
Is it the problem of “someone changed my toy and I want it back”
Cuz too bad, that aint happening and neither should it.
I personally really enjoyed how strong the patch 13 surge staff was but that doesn’t mean that I want it back after it was fixed (and made weaker by fixing it)
Not everything we want are good ideas. Just like I can have bad ideas, so can you 
No they should have expanded the blessings of the Surge staff in stead, but they neutered it to horseshoe in a similar mechanic.
They are psykers ffs, get creative. Surge staffs only have 3 tier 4 blessings…
“Yes they are both electrical based, but one of them actually does spread and is a crowd control with low damage, while the other one is mostly single target burst damage with barely any control at all.”
Nothing a blessing could have done.
No, absolutely not.
It’s, at best, equally as creative to add another blessing to a weapon to change it’s functionallity completely over adding in a blitz ability that does the same exact thing.
Logically, a lack of creativity can’t be your issue.
Adding blessings to a single wepon out of 65-ish also seems very arbitrairy and completely sh!ts on their gacha system. Out of principle alone, this is a horrendous idea.
Was the old surge staff good? No, not particularly. It was every new psykers noob trap of a weapon and playstyle. It was actively good for the game that it got removed and was replaced with a high single target weapon instead as that didn’t exist before.
Does smite repeat any of the old surge staff patterns? No or at least not too similarly and it being a seperate thing from a weapon means that you get to bring both to a build rather than having to chose between either functionallitly.
I’m sorry but there is simply no logical way to agree with your take here.
Also, one of the two an be combined with voidstrike, trauma and purgatus staffs, while the other can not. Because it is a staff.
And the surge still isn’t good, it’s weak and even with every buff going it struggles to take out specials and needs several fully charged attacks bring down a crusher, buy that time a piddly knife has melted it. Even a half strength charge to take out the weakest of targets fails most of time.
It’s just not viable on anything damnation and higher. What it was good at was rapid spamming stuns, but got taken away and turned into a blitz. Whilst damage part is about as dangerous as a sponge ball in a play pen.
There was nothing to stop them putting some love into the staff and making it viable. Instead they took more away from the staff than they gave, to make a blitz, leaving surge staff with an erectile dysfunction.
But you have your opinion, and I have mine. May we melt heretics together one day.
And…?