Ogryn Is Basically Psyker Pro Max Now

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide General Discussion
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He does more damage than Psyker, has way better survivability, and is also much more well-rounded overall.

And please don’t bring up the “but Ogryn needs ammo” argument anymore. After all the buffs Fatshark has given him, his ammo economy is honestly ridiculous. You can get 50% ammo back from your ability, Lucky Bullet procs don’t consume ammo, you regenerate 1% every 15 seconds, and on top of that you can still benefit from Veteran’s ammo aura. Unless you’re literally holding down left click nonstop for the entire mission, ammo really isn’t the issue people make it out to be anymore.

The damage is even more absurd.

By the time a Psyker is still trying to stack Soulblaze, the Ogryn has already blown up everything in front of him. Psyker used to at least have the advantage in horde clear, but now Ogryn can do the same job while getting his damage out much faster.

Then you get to Carapace enemies, elites and bosses, and the gap gets even worse. Psyker has never been especially great at dealing with heavily armored targets and bosses, while Ogryn barely struggles with any of them. Horde clear, elites, Carapace, bosses, survivability, crowd control — he can handle pretty much everything extremely well.

And when one class can erase basically everything before the rest of the team even gets a chance to interact with it, that starts seriously hurting the experience for everyone else.

I genuinely cannot understand why Fatshark felt the need to buff Ogryn over and over again. The class did not need this much help, and now they’ve created a monster.

I seriously hope Fatshark tones him down soon, because this has gone way past Ogryn simply being “strong.” At this point, he’s starting to make other classes feel redundant.

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Can we just add this to all threads at this point?

Powercreep no more please!

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I think you focus more on a social aspect of being perceived as a weak character(psyker) though all you did was spamming 1 button like mad. Does it matter if you dps less relative to ogryn now if you can still close any game content there is. The main question is if you enjoy playing your class or do you just enjoy social approval

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Entirely correct, and applicable to basically every class right now. Let’s just start nerfing everything across the board, from classes on out to enemy spawn numbers and everything in between.

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Unfortunately, the larger sentiment right now is that the current gameplay is fun. Spam is fun. Steamrolling through everything is fun.

People want an arcade-style gameplay for Darktide, even though that was never the devs’ intention.

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wasnt pbb cooldown double nerfed with the last patch? psyker always did more dmg than ogryn and still does

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It’s been the reverse for years. Psycher has literally done that for years on end.

Whilst I think PBB is definitely in need of a nerf (I never use it as an Oggy main) I am enjoying seeing Psychers get a taste of their own medicine for once lol

A bit childish of me I know, but…we have all been suffering that godforsaken blue flame for eons.

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And when one class can erase basically everything before the rest of the team even gets a chance to interact with it, that starts seriously hurting the experience for everyone else.

Easiest way to farm karma on these forums, just say this in any nerf thread and people will applaud like you’re the greatest mind of this generation

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He does not do more damage than psyker but pbb is not as far behind as it should be

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Being self aware of your schadenfreude, but rolling hard into it anyway..

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Well. cant say you have expereince with me in a team when i erased all in front of group with my kickback. But this is definetly was very fun :slight_smile:

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“A taste of their own medicine.” As if any psyker player designed this bs as opposed to the developer. With shriek+inferno players were given a tool so vastly superior to all their other choices not picking it felt like an exercise in stupidity, and then got blamed by other players for picking it. Then smite was added on top. It’s become clear that the unstable weapon of mass destruction class will always be taking shirt from the terminally scoreboard emasculated.

Regardless, in my experience psyker can still outdmg everyone with the right build (in H40 at least). You might even say its gotten easier than ever. Just spam fgs waves with scriers.

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Gigachad behaviour

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And to be a Special killer just run Rock + Thugshot.

You have instant 1 hit breakpoint kills on every Special, and the tankiness to be in a position + safety, to see every Special. Vet with Las machinegun TTK can’t compete.

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I’m 100% convinced that PBB rumbler is stronger than same level psyker unless his teammates scramble for ammos intentionally or unintentionally. PBB rumbler ogryn is stronger than the inferno psyker in ways—not only damage dealing, whether it’s range, speed of dealing damage, crowd control, flexibility, self-preservation, or how much it interferes with teammates. And I commit that I will allow no PBB rumbler ogryn to enter my team during the current version of the game.

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Just nerf them both.

Are there people that actually care about karma on some random ahh game studio’s forum? lol

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because for the longest time people have said that ogryn is the worst/weakest class, its genuinely been a yearly thing, ogryn goes from being the most op broken class, gets a handful of small nerfs, and now ogryn is the worst dogshit class to exist and desperately needs buffs, it literally happens every year with the cycle of buffs and nerfs and the complainers just keep complaining and are never happy

they used to say ogryn was weak before its major rework in march 2025(he wasnt), but he still got giga buffed with the new tree, ranged damage talents started applying to the rumbler etc. then arbites came out and was another really strong class so people sorta forgot about ogryn, then ogryn got some small nerfs to things that needed it, and the other classes got their tree reworks and hive scum came out and then bam ogryn was all of a sudden the worst class again. so now we’ve looped back around and all the classes got another new tree rework, but just wait fatshark will get around to giving ogryn some nerfs eventually, but people will say ogryn is bad again and say that fatshark hates ogryns and only wants to nerf them, people will whine and cry and then theyll buff ogryn again and the cycle will continue, it will never stop

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And it’s an absolutely nice thing: having countless nerf and buff waves makes this game alive.

Any changes are good changes.

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Despite the mutual trolling often going around on these forums, I do agree the game has balance problems and some things need nerfs and other need buffs. My main gripe is usually when people suggest nerfs intended to hit certain builds (such as shriek+inferno+perilous combustion builds) that unintentionally or indirectly hit other builds that rely on certain crossover talents and abilities (core psyker mechanics).

That’s why I feel like for example the “bug fix” intended to nerf tap-quelling in H40 was very misplaced, because there’s a lot of other builds and playstyles besides the typical metabuilds that employ the same quelling mechanics and yet are taking unnecessary hits through such a change.

To my mind the main culprits were perilous combustion, infinite cleave on inferno staff attacks, psychic shriek, and scriers gaze. Hitting psyker on mechanics universally shared across builds is a massive misfire imo.

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Soulblaze psyker with the flame staff isn’t the only psyker build. It’s great at clearing hordes for sure.

That said, have you tried using the Voidstrike Staff with Warp Siphon + Scryer’s Gaze? Surge + Warp Nexus blessing. Whenever you crit (which is most of the time) you do two shots of the fully charged projectile which both are crits. It’s amazing damage. You can add Perilous Combustion and the two soulblaze talents for a little bit of extra AoE DoT damage if you want.