no doubt about it. With just a little thought, it becomes clear that weapons like the Headhunter, Braced, Devil’s Claw, or Heavy Sword are completely useless in Havoc. people who say that C- or B-tier weapons depend on the player simply haven’t realized they’re being carried. using anything other than S-tier weapons in Havoc is basically just making the game harder for yourself. I’ve seen a few players on Twitch using non-meta weapons, and without exception, they all just came across as dead weight.
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I doubt they balance stuff around havoc, the game is generally catered towards casuals. Gotta love those “we need space marines” arguments when we destroy Daemonhosts/Beasts/Plague Ogryns and Spawns with a kicthen knife or a toothpick.
Yeah umm, about that. Remove stealth from the game. Then we can talk about real skill expression.
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Stealth would be more interesting if enemies could see a blurred image like in the predator movies so they shoot and bash away randomly. Might hit something or not. But I guess that turning them off completely was the easier solution.
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There should be enemy types that ignore Stealth, maybe even Dogs and Trapper.
Makes sense that dogs can sniff you out, and Trapper just being an ultimate Hunter, who can even entrap Ogryns.
But so far, devs only nerfed Executioner’s Stance by removing autoreload and splitting the 50% damage buff into 25% base 25% weakspot. Also Pox Gas nerfs it further by messing up enemy breakpoints for all weapons which rely on one-tap headshots.
So yeah.
^^ ancient wisdom 
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Khan didn’t get carried, I do assume you talk of Khans db heavy sword video.
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So Khan here is getting carried?
Sure buddy. Sure.
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Me when I was in this game
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Not sure if delusional or serious.
First pack of Crushers after the drop - barely helped killing them.
Some specials don’t die even medium distance with two shots, such a great weapon.
Didn’t help killing Plague Ogryn, aside from pressing VOC a couple of times.
Didn’t do anything to Scab Captain, killed 2 trappers in the time Ogryn solo’d it.
Then they dropped down and he died to Reaper without even damaging it.
Yes, they were carried.
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Not to mention he plays with Reginald in a premade with probably other good players. So if it was quickplay with randoms which is always another layer of difficulty, I have my doubts they would even complete the mission.
I was in this game dude, khan more than carried his own weight.
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You have no idea what you’re talking about and it shows. I’d like to see a duo or h40 run from you before we continue otherwise imma have to cash in your yapping license.
It’s fine if you’re unable to make it work. I tried myself and I suck at db vet, but coping by trying to pull down khan, a guy with dozens of uploaded duo and h40 videos is wild.
Keep your ego in check mate.
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yeah sure let me fire up that havoc 40 quickplay and test out how bad the randoms really are
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lol are you guys really doing what the title says
You have no idea what you’re talking about and it shows.
I guess observations is a foreign concept to you. Tell me where I was wrong in either my post about DB or criticizing his gameplay.
Check my post history, I posted True Survivor Havoc 40 S2 scoreboard in the other thread. I play Havoc 40 all the time since its release. So me saying stuff in this thread is ego, but you saying baseless stuff that’s not even based on your own experience is not ego? XD
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balance feels fine in the game the problem is bugs.
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Fully agree. It should reduce agro, not remove it. And add like 70% ranged auto dodge change.
If blurred stealth becomes a mechanic it can be applied to an enemy special as well.
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For what its worth i agree with you.
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