So the Rashad has a blessing that gives Rend on enemy one shot.
Is rend applied before or after the hit?
Small question, big theory crafting implications
So the Rashad has a blessing that gives Rend on enemy one shot.
Is rend applied before or after the hit?
Small question, big theory crafting implications
Would be really good to know. Makes a big difference to whom and when it is applied.
I’m not 100% sure but I think blessings are calculated as on hit and modifiers (penetration) are always on.
So every hit you do will have XX armour penetration if its a modifier on your weapon
Blessings stack up as you hit stuff. (after you hit it you have 1 stack)
So the first hit is 0 stack second hit 1 stack third hit 2 stack etc
Don’t the stacks show up as a buff icon? Next to your portrait frame.
AFAIK rend is a penetration stat buff which is applied to your weapon, not the enemy you hit?
Before or after?
I really wish there was an ingame glossary for every mechanic.
It’s just an assumption on my part (and you know what people say about those) but I would assume you build up stacks on one shoting enemies with this blessing and keep them for XX seconds.
First hit is zero stacks because you have to one shot something for it to start counting…
Assuming my assumption is correct (please someone correct me if Im wrong here…), rend improves your penetration stat, pen stat reflects how much damage you do ON HIT to flak and cara armour. So ON HIT, not before or after? You get rend stacks AFTER one shot kills.
So with 0 stacks of rend my Antax on heavy attack headshot does 316 damage to Mauler. With 5 stacks of Rend the headshot does 351. So that looks like approx extra 11% damage vs carapace with 5 rend stacks. I haven’t check vs flak, but I suspect it might be more than 11%. Penetration stat tends to affect damage vs flak more than carapace.
related note you can only reduce armour of your target so much you cant get them into -armour as far as I know anyway.
edit* I don’t have an axe with decapitator on but the blessing super charged for power sword reads
supercharged +4 rending on energised hit
a quick test in training room shows empty buff bar next to portrait frame as you do energised hit’s you can see the blessing icon appear with a number next to it that’s how many stacks your at.
I don’t have any plasteel to make an axe but I expect it is the same for you. Go try it in the psykhanium
I remember thinking about this a while ago wondering if you debuff what your hitting on you carry the buff on yourself they added the icons to show what blessings are buffing you in a patch a little while ago.
oddly i was playing around with this last night ,as far as i could tell its after and
its compeltely impractical as far as i can tell.
Perhaps if you get the T4 blessing, it lets you one shot bodyshot?
well the problem is anything you can one shot you dont need to rend , so you have to alternate between one shotting and rending , maybe the t4 bless offers so much rend its worth it, it just seems like a badly designed and very low power talent from what i saw of it.
The intention probably was you build up stacks on trash and spend them on elites mixed in the horde. The thing is similarly to blessings like Shred you lose these stacks really easily, if you miss, block or push attack. None of that should happen (maybe punish for a miss), just give it a timer as any other GOOD blessing?
Tbh seems stupid they put the rending blessing onto the weapons that already have penetration as a modifier to me. If you have a high penetration roll on your axe you cant get much worth from having decapitator as a blessing right?
Unless maybe penetration and rending work differently in some way and nobody knows? lol Its totally possible.
Shovel has penetration modifier but
So thats why there is still rend blessings for some weapons
Even the explanations need an explanation.
That picture is missing the explanations of what exactly those numbers mean. Are they calculated from that particular shovels penetration modifier? Where’s the rest of the information.
Does that mean that on a heavy attack with that particular shovel you ignore 12.42% of the targets armour or do 12.42% more damage? Literally the worst descriptions of wtf is going on in any game ive ever played
+10-25% Rending for 5 seconds on Enemy One-Shot. Stacks 3-5 times.
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These are the weapons that can have the decapitator blessing all come with penetration baked in already… so your saying that it just improves your ability to penetrate armour by a small amount?
uhh who cares axes suck anyway
Unless maybe penetration and rending work differently in some way and nobody knows? lol Its totally possible.
From some testing with t4 ucnanny strike (100% rend) it seems penetration just stop working as a modifier when rend is 100%, so i guess it’s the same thing. This shovel
deals 162 dmg to flak rager with body hit wich is accurate to what it’s should be from calculations (149+8%vs elites= 160,92)
Yeh I remember reading or hearing that rend/penetration (armour reduction) is capped and you cant stack it past there for a damage bonus cant remember where though. Anyhow dosnt matter to me anymore since I use a power sword
Source on that would be nice. With how many misinformation are out and about, we really need the datamined numbers or dev responses on this.
Because so far there seems to be no cap to most things.
pft that was months ago combination of reddit threads you tube videos etc sry you can probably google it up yourself fairly easily though.
Back when the game first came out everyone was trying to figure out wtf was going on. Aparently we still trying to figure it out