How do I Psyker?

I mean, to be brutally honest, Psyker is just plain worse than the other classes in the game. It requires more skill, but the problem is that you have to work a lot harder than other classes… and you will still perform worse.

Unpopular opinion and I’m sure droves of Psyker mains will come to defend the class. I’m a Psyker main too, but it’s honestly brutally obvious how weak the class is compared to everyone else. Yeah of course it’s viable, you can top scoreboards with it, blah blah blah.

At the end of the day, the other classes are way tankier or have way more DPS - and most of the time both.

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Gunspyker is probably the best build for Psyker right now, but it’s still worse than every other class (outside of niche monster weakspot deletion, and that has more to do with how overtuned Columnus Mk5 is.)

I dunno, psyker has the best SHTF prevention/recovery tool in the game by far (smite). Shield bubble spam makes it possible for the team to just go wherever you want without worrying much about shooters, and void/trauma staves are probably the best allrounder weapons in the game.

It’s true that they lag behind in raw DPS and defense, but they’re at least good at everything and they have strong supportive abilities. They’re comparatively weak when they’re alone, but they’re very, very good at preventing that situation from arising.

Smite and Dome are both most of the time simply tools to help a subpar team. If you’re with a competent team, the only thing you’re doing when using Smite is removing 1/4 of the DPS, effectively hampering the team (or at the very least making the run slower). Obviously both Smite and Dome can be lifesavers for any team of any skill in certain situations, but on the whole, most of the time, they aren’t needed in the slightest.

I tend to like Trauma, but again you’re simply adding help/stagger. A single Krak grenade (that is inifinite) will kill a blob of crushers/maulers/ragers in about one second, while a Trauma most throws them around the place and tickles them slightly. Most Ogyrn builds and some Zealot builds can solo said blobs as well. TTK/DPS on the Trauma, like all the other staffs, is abysmal.

Void is… OK? There’s the Surge build and stuff, but that hardly elevates it above… OK. When taking into account the charge time, it does laughable DPS. It’s good at removing horde, but so what? Hordes aren’t dangerous.

Surge staff? Don’t even get me started. What’s the point of it? What’s the design intent? Is it supposed to be the worst single target DPS weapon in the game? Is it supposed to be the worst single target stagger weapon in the game? It’s beyond worthless. After their latest nerfs it just tickles enemies.

And Purgatus? Hah. Yeah. Don’t see many of them around these days, do you? Hopelessly worthless. Short range, can only kill hordes. Pointless.

And that’s just the so called Psyker weapons, not the class itself. Which has terrible toughness recovery, no ‘oh crap’ blitz to speak of, and imo a laughably bad talent tree, with keystones that are beyond terrible.

You’re thinking about the class in the frame of a highly skilled team that works well together. Most teams don’t fall into that description. Psyker’s kit can dramatically increase the odds of success in rando QP teams.

Psyker is amazing if built and played properly (obviously)

But of course it’s overshadowed when Fatshark keeps folding for the Main Character class players who can’t fathom not being able to clear whole rooms with a single left click

But so can other builds on other classes. While being far, far more survivable on their own, and actually doing damage.

I disagree. It’s viable if built and played properly.

If you apply the same amount of build know how and skill to other classes, you will perform massively better.

AIN’T NO WAY :skull:

Shout/focus vet is the only other build that has that level of team support capability.

I think you greatly undervalue a Zealots ability to be everywhere at once, for example.

Stupid braindead shlt like Plasma Gun vets obviously make Psyker seem weak

Remember when everyone was calling Voidstrike busted ? And then apparently nobody cares when Plasma Gun does that but 5x stronger

It’s much stronger than just viable, Fatshark just needs to stop kneeling to Mary Sues

Do you know why the vast majority of ranged weapons suck ? Because if they buffed them, they’d be too strong in Veteran hands

Not for the other classes
i.e. The Revolver nerf only affects Psyker and Zealot
i.e. Veterans need to be slapped back to reality and Fatshark needs to stop listening to their tears

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I think I’ve never seen a zealot prevent 10 crushers from cornering someone and turning them into paste.

Have you ever seen a Psyker walk right into the blob of 10 Crushers to revive someone?

Not to mention, uh… Zealot can be built to have the best stagger in the game :joy:

Nope, but I’ve seen stealth zealots do it, shortly followed by that someone immediately dying again because they were completely surrounded and had no way to escape. Many times.

It removes/trivializes what are otherwise fail states.

I think Smite, and Dome are amazing contingencies. They aren’t needed most of the time, but when they are needed they are life saving.

This is the equivalent of saying someone with bad allergies doesn’t need an epipen for the majority of their meals.

The lower DPS doesn’t matter because of the space it opens up for everyone else to be so much more aggressive.

I know for a fact at least on my veteran that it allows me to stay in ranged aggro mode. I can solo delete all the specials, and most of the elites if I’m allowed to sit still and shoot.

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I agree with this. Staff psyker is in a bad place. It’s viable as you say, but the effort to reward ratio is bad.

no force sword?

you know nothing of the force

I honestly think that staff psyker is one of the best classes right now.
But might just be me (it is my most played class after all).
I wouldn‘t mind, if you guys got my favorite class buffed. :smiley:
Merry christmas everyone.

I mean… they’re not hopelessly worthless or pointless. I have 400+ bonus levels on Psyker, it is by far my most played class. But I certainly think it’s the weakest, and unfortunately it kind of has been during long periods since release.

Merry Christmas!