Hotfix 1.12.3 - Patch Notes

i just know i did the right and wise thing by reporting actual cheat exploits, unlike you all saying random statements and not doing anything

you all just talking and zero actions, me reporting real cheat exploits behind the stages
and i did a comment about this actual real cheat exploit and then you come here saying random stuff just to stir up drama and conflicts again, cause your blood still boiling for no reason

Also most of the players active during this time were levelling Skitarii, so had an extremely skewed baseline for actual comparisons. Plus were possibly upping the difficulty ASAP for more XP.

Once you get to adequate gear Vanguards are noticeably more ‘fair’. I do think these changes were pretty restrained and reasonable at least:

I’ve also noticed that Vanguards punish light attack spam FAR more heavily than judicious use of heavy attacks, so would naturally affect some players more than others.

Let’s keep the conversation on topic and stop the back and forth jabbing at each other guys. The post will be closed if the arguing continues. Lets keep it civil :slightly_smiling_face:

i dont mind the concept of vanguard butt currently they are far tankier than all elites and even some ogryns, they are also a chaff unit and you cant get rid of them with precision, which is what you would assume of a shielded enemy. either make them elite and even then less tanky or just make them a normal guy with shield, so no extra hp or damage reduction. or make them maulers with shields instead, anything except current implementation. its not the difficulty or threat, its just boring to fight smth which takes 4+ headshots

like come on devs, you had such units in VT2 already, the stormvermin, was it too hard to implement them in this game like that?, sry rant over

I agree, they should have rear damage modifier +150% :grin:

i started writing with an extra t as a joke butt now its stuck

that modifier would at least be something

Well since all my replies mysteriously vanished, here’s the TLDR for the record.

I never used that mod, you’re simply lying because you painted yourself into a corner and I asked you to present you evidence, none was.

You just lied (again) fabricated a strawman to knock down. Furthermore, as is consistent, I do agree it gives an unintended advantage. Stop throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks.

How would you know what we do? I regularly tag cheat mods and cheaters, report exploits in ANY game that I’m aware of.

You know why you don’t know? Because we do these things silently, nobody else tries to virtue signal or fish for praise

Furthermore advertising the existence of exploits then giving hints about it only serves to promote said exploits.

Cheat exploit to give yourself an unfair advantage vs cheat mod, same diff.

Tell them to buff the Devil Claw while you’re at it mister first poster…

Puh lease…

Added back the original smoke FX yet?

That’s what I’m afraid of, too.

Just make the renegate vanguard an elite enemy cause it has the same hp pool as a mauler and keep it as it is. I just want to be able to mark it. The other smaller vanguard is fine as it is. It’s better having renegate vanguards spammed than Bulwarks.

I think that the hp scaling of enemies might need some rework, I definitely do not want bullet sponges in this game, the horde aspect of it is what makes it great.

But, I did notice an issue back when while leveling Skitarii, the vanguards were very hard to deal with at lower levels when I immediately upped the difficulty, maybe that’s why the number of complaints. I think they need a balancing across difficulties and those complaints will disappear. They seem to be better balanced on the higher levels.

Dearly respected )))))))))) at @Fatshark , what the hell is going on in your thick skulls? Are you aware that almost no one plays Expeditions? And yet you bothered to change the rotation there but not in Havoc. How hard is it to actually listen to Havoc players who are asking for:

  1. Remove the rotation entirely
    OR
  2. Actually have a real rotation that changes at least once every 2 weeks

Not this current joke of one map per month.

Do you even understand what people are asking you for?