You keep using that word . “Authorized” I do not think it means what you think it means.
To have something be authorized it has to be given official permission or approval.
To give something is an action, it’s an active choice.
Inaction on fatsharks part can never be considered authorization.
All what Chatgpt points is about cheating in a pve environment.
However, this takes your postulate. That these mods are cheats. But as they are authorized… there are not cheats.
That’s you that have talked about this. Not me. don’t inverse what happened.
I just point that this is irrelevant
you claim that it gives an huge advantage, I don’t feel so. However, as I said:
Barrier language? or you don’t want to understand?
I ve never said that. Check all my posts here.
I said that if players like you cannot understand the rules they have given us, rules that I understand personally, then they need to explain them again.
So, I have never said who care. I have said that this is Fatshark’s game, they decide what are the rules in this domain. If they allow it, this is not a cheat.
Also, I asked something more to chatgpt:
The conclusion is fair enough (and you can see that I did not try to influence the answer).
Fatshark needs to clarifies the position as you have a problem at understanding the rules as they have written them.
I will not read the rest because:
that’s a circular argument
Well, that’s better than “these mods are cheat cause I said so”
Again mods on nexusmods are not “authorized”.
Nexusmods are a third party, even if Fatshark requests for a mod to be taken down, nexusmods aren’t legally required to fulfill that request.
What you’re currently saying is that if I were to upload a mod which clearly goes against Fatsharks policy, it is “authorized” and has Fatsharks blessing and good graces for however long it takes for them to issuse a request to nexusmods to take it down.
Do you see why that doesn’t work?
Quote me the announcement where they said they are forbidden, and I would agree with you.
I can only find one thread about the fact that mods are authorized.
I’ve avoided most of these threads, but it’s time to hang my colours. I’m on team GPK.
Hand on heart, I don’t think I’m actually bothered enough by the existing mods to “fight the good fight” as I plateau’d in this game long ago, and nowadays just mooch in the lower leagues (T5 + generally). I play with buddies most of the time and we all know why we’re playing.
But, also hand on heart, I believe anyone who thinks using a mod to “correct” dev choices, or “fix the game” for that one time when a silent enemy gets them is genuinely kidding themselves. If the developers thought them necessary or even wanted them in game, they’d be there. Full stop.
If I’m going to call out any mods I think are Game++, then it’s Numeric UI and Spidey Sense. If anyone out there has a physical disadvantage and came to this game expecting some support then FatShark need to hang their heads in shame in relying on amateur 3rd party “support devs” to provide it. Everyone else is using a crutch.
So you’re saying that a mod which goes against company policy, a forbidden mod if you will.
Is authorized in the time it takes for Fatshark to police a third party filesharing website?
I will quote what I said previously… cause I already answered this
I have said it (can’t count how many times), I want that Fatshark clarifies what is forbidden to end these endless discussions.
In fact I want a list of known mods (with the description of that they do and why they are forbidden) that are considered as against the rules. And I want a strict enforcement of this.
Worst thing I have seen… a mod that permitted to spam a chat line “I need to be r.ped”. Reported the guy.
Yes I know… I have not same concerns of several here…
In turn let me quote what I said earlier to you as to why a blacklist approach doesn’t work.
And also just because Fatshark haven’t issused take down requests, that does not mean that the mods on nexus mods are currently “authorized”
Allowed? Sure.
Authorized? No.
I’ll quote myself once more:
Fatshark hasn’t explicitly “authorized” any mods, but by the mod policy and actions of FS (including direct communication with mod authors) all mods (and even the flaccid non-mod aimbot programs out there) are tacitly approved.
There is a mechanism for reporting someone you feel is cheating in the game now. Record footage for best results, and report if you feel your experience is being hampered by someone using Spidey Sense or Numeric UI or an aimbot whatever. FS will take it from there.
Bruh, he directly contradicts your recent posts; read them first.
Apart from the mod policy being rather vauge I really do not have a leg to stand on in this entire discussion.
I have just taken a slight issuse with the word choices and logical aguements that Ralendil have put forth.
I do realize we’re properly both from places where english isn’t our first language and that may contribute to why we’re talking in circles.
barrier language…
I have not even seen what is in contradiction.
Maybe you can point it.
Basically what I read is that mods are implicitly authorized. And that you can report mods that you feel not compliant to the rules
What I say since the start.
Yes, this is how I view it.
Holy cow! I give up, tu gagnes.
IIRC, he assured me this wasn’t an issue in the past when I brought it up.
This is not a matter of winning or loosing. I assure you that I understand your concerns, even if I really don’t share them. What would really be better is that Fatshark amend their mod policy with a new message that clarifies the situation.
And, that’s up to them to decide if they also need to adapt / change the rules or maintain them as they are actually.
To be honest, without mods I cannot play. I need defaultsprint. I can use an ahk script, but it is really annoying.
There are other mods that make the game interesting for me. Vanilla is a pretty bad experience. So, if they would cut the mod support, I would voice my opinion here and… I would search a new game.
I have always say that a game should remain a game. If you don’t take pleasure and have to force you, you should or stop playing or find a new game.
Actually I am playing a lot less Darktide. I think I completed 4 missions in one week, instead of 4 - 7 per day by the past. Thank to havoc, maelstrom bugged etc.
This one is pretty interesting. I have always said that I play for fun. I don’t aim for the highest difficulty if I find something else more interesting.
Until a few months ago, I preferred playing regular Damnation for one reason: I prefer when it is not a special fiesta. I like elite fiestas, but not really special fiestas.
But I tried Maelstrom, and these missions are really fun. I’m actually trying to complete the 50 Power Supply Interruption / Pox Gas / Ventilation Purge. So I’m currently playing the Auric missions.
But what I’m waiting for is the possibility to play with already implemented conditions that are still not released. I really want the condition that throws a lot of hordes at you… if it could be combined with the Moebian condition, that would be great.
Just to explain my point of view on games, this might also explain why we don’t share the same vision. I play just for fun, and I’m not married to Darktide or a big fan of Warhammer 40K. But I like it, as I played a lot of RPGs (paper and dice) when I was young, so I enjoy the universe, but I’m not a hardcore fan.
Games are my way to take a break after my workday, and I want that it stays this way.
Clarification: I would not care that they forbid a mod like spidey sense. A little sad for all players with hearing problems that would have to stop playing or to play lowest difficulties, but I would not care more than that. But there are mods that make this game really better. I don’t know if you consider it a cheat, but since I installed crosshair hud, I must say that playing without it would be a huge come back that would really annoys me, maybe too much to continue this game.
(CrosshairHUD does not display any more information than what the game displays. It is just that it displays them around the crosshair. But sure I also use a dodge counter and the stamina bar + peril/heat bar.)
Absence of disapproval does not equal approval, it’s just absence of disapproval
Congratz you answered your own question.
Also the last part is false.
Edit; nevermind i already have seen the replies from both
