Flamer and Flame grenades buff idea

Dueling Sword has been this strong for over a year at this point.

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ok so im just gonna leave this thread saying one last time that no one has changed my opinion on the flamer cause its like saying if you had a house of cards held together with ductape, chewing gum, and the hopes and dreams of the youngest generations, AND ALSO super cool alien space magic powered by alien space juice, its a PERFECTLY GOOD HOUSE ON ALL FRONTS!!! no… remove the space magic and it crumbles and the same goes for the flamer with its magic alien space juice is easily the most broken blitz ability in the game if you ask me aside from the current infinite smite being the throwing knives which makes 90% of its weaknesses null and void and legitimately is as good as most single target elimination ranged weapons we have currently doing the job faster and honestly easier than most of them…..

full stop, play with the flamer WITHOUT throwing knives and tell me it still is worth anything when its range is pathetic, its burst damage and horde clear is worse than a bolter with lethal proximity which also applies bleed dots and nevermind the amount of damage even through carapace it does meaning its range of hordes it can melt is far greater than the flamer with it reloads far faster, readies far sooner cause you dont have to brace it before firing and just have to swap to it with its swap time ALSO being faster, and it in general just doing more damage with less hassle while also having easily one of the best ranged enemy single target fire options in game cause the bolt will cleave through basic poxwalker and even specialist gunner and shotgunner hordes to pop the sniper a mile out or the bomber in the middle of the crowd.

literally the flamers biggest claim to fame is melting poxwalker hordes and doing ā€œALRIGHTTTTTTā€ boss damage but honestly even that is pretty meh with shotgunner and gunner hordes can be moderatly handedl with it again honestly kinda only middlingly being handled and at the cost of a crap ton of ammo nevermind the damage you will eat just reading the thing with than ogryn type enemies, manic type enemies, and elites may as well just be ignored with it cause your only gonna waste fuel vs the bolter which can clear ALL of that without much trouble and than reload faster than it takes to just brace the flamer and do it all over again……

honestly if they just make its primary fire the stream of flames and made the braced firing that grenade launcher like projectile firing a burst of fire that on impact doesnt leave a AoE but bursts doing high damage and procing flame dots, i think most of its problems would be handled but even than its ads (the bracing cause apparently people dont understand jack all that the brace uses the same button as and techincally fills the same feature as adsing so calling it ads is easier) and its swap speed needs to be improved by like a second each to be in line with the bolter cause its just trash that is carried by the throwing knives as much as its fun for the like 5% of times it actually makes sense to use the damn thing………..

weapons should have NO downsides and EVERY WEAPON should be able to kill EVERY ENEMY!!!

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Compared to the other classes, it is certainly the weakest and most pigeonholed.

The Flamer however is bonkers nuts and its presence on Zealot might very well be why they have near-zero ranged functionality.

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