Creating this thread to let Fatshark know we haven’t forgotten about the promised ability to be able to play Solo w/ Bots like we can in Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2, Back 4 Blood, Vermintide, Vermintide 2, World War Z, and many other “4-player co-op” games.
I have no interest in playing with randoms, it is not fun for me and while I still own the game for the handful of times I play with my friend in a private lobby, I will never solo-queue with randoms. I’ve done it before in every other iteration of this genre and hated every second of it. It’s not for me, and we were told that solo w/ bots would be available on release “or if not, within two months”. That was September 2022. Instead of giving us an actual update, you’ve gone radio silent and removed any mention of Solo w/ Bots from FAQs, despite this literally being a Frequently Asked Question.
Look, I get that you had other priorities with the state the game launched in, but as far as I can tell it’s in a pretty good place now and people are happy with most systems (crafting being the major outlier I can think of off the top of my head). Yet, we still don’t have any mention of solo w/ bots. If you don’t plan on ever adding it, just say that and I’ll request my refund and move on to games that actually provide what was promised.
Claim a refund dude. Pretty sure they’ve done a fair few.
Pillorying the forums when it’s clearly isn’t coming is unlikely to get you any outcome you’d want.
Unless of course you’ve more than 20 hours in the game in which case… Maybe mixed messages…
I’m currently at 49.8 hours, 40 of which was done in private lobbies with my friend (the same way we play VT2), the other 9.8 was me using the Many More Try mod to backdoor my way into empty public lobbies that are out of rotation. Which let me play the game, but it was a band-aid fix for what Fatshark explicitly said would be in the game.
If you ordered a steak, green beans, and mashed potatoes. But only the steak and mashed potatoes arrived while the server said “I’m so sorry, we’re finishing up those green beans for you now, 2 minutes tops!” then you finish your meal without ever seeing your green beans, and when you ask about it, the server just blatantly ignores any mention of the green beans, you’re going to be upset. Was it the main dish of your meal? No. But you ordered it, they told you it was coming, and they need to give you an answer as to why it never arrived.
I think FS should be held to releasing solo mode, like they should be held to releasing the 100 aquila pack they said was coming (I refuse to buy more aquilas until they do), but…solo mode isn’t in any marketing materials or advertising. You’d have to find the scant references to it, from over a year ago, buried on these forums and make a purchasing decision based on that, something they haven’t really talked about since.
That’s why I included the quote from Aqshy saying “yes.” to solo and that it would be coming. Also it’s why I said they’ve gone radio silent, trying to cover up the fact they ever said solo mode would be a thing.
To be fair @FatsharkCatfish answered to a similar inquiry in late summer that it wasn’t a priority back then. Which I understood as no plans to add back then. Could have changed though. If so they didn’t communicate it.
I really want this too and woukd play it alot. the main concern would be that the bots in Darktide suck D***. The bots in vermintide 2 were gods and i loved playing with them but ill just get annoyed with the DT bots
I remember this, but my issue is that it wasn’t a public announcement it was a response to a private inquiry. I myself have reached out to @FatsharkCatfish twice, once in September 2023, and again a week or two ago, asking for a public announcement on the topic and never got a response. Why are they so against saying anything about it publicly?
My tinfoil theory is that the information on Solo play is still out there and people may buy the game in hopes that it will come eventually and play with Randoms casually selling more copies of the game. I understand that my position of refusing to play with Randoms is not that common, but every sucker they can pull in with a promise they’ve never delivered, but never denied is still coming, is a copy sold.
But seriously…these theoretical “suckers” would have to dig into the forums, and ignore months of proof that it wasn’t in/coming, to even be able to delude themselves into thinking that official solo mode is coming at this point.
Gonna have to mod your green beans in for now!
Inspired by this thread, I gave Many More Try (mod for earning materials from solo play) a whirl, and it seems to be working for me. Having some trouble with Tertium 5 (mod for playing with your characters as bots) at the moment though.
EDIT: Haven’t confirmed this yet, but it seems that Many More Try, since it uses the live servers, isn’t compatible with Tertium 5. Makes sense, I suppose, but it’s a bummer!
Oh, I know it’s a super tinfoil-hat wearing conspiracy theory lol. And yeah Many More Try works, but you’re using up server capacity which makes me feel bad for other players on one hand, and on the other it makes me point to Fatshark and say “blame them, I wouldn’t need to use your quick-play servers if they’d give me my solo w/ bots.”
Since MMT uses inaccessible servers (that have been online for many hours since their join window expired), I don’t think you need to worry about it being negative for other players or FS.
If these idling servers are costing FS too much money, they can add more constraints on their use/reuse/uptime. They’ve suggested they would/might do this, but for now there are servers from almost 20 hours ago still up…so play away!
Randoms aren’t so bad on the Damnation/Auric level. It’s still a mixed bag, but every now and then you get a good team, or a skilled player who carries.
The lower difficulties sometimes can be harder just because of how weak teams can be.
For me, it’s not so much the skill level of Randoms it’s more that I just don’t enjoy playing these types of games with Randoms. Pugging in an MMO is one thing (and even then I’d prefer bots if the game would let me), but in a first person horde shooter/slasher, it’s another. That’s just me though.
We all have our reasons for wanting what was promised, for sure!
Being able to play solo in a co-op game is just always a wonderful option. Sometimes I want to practice, sometimes the net goes out and you just wanted to keep playing for a run or two. Or maybe I wanted to play through the maps at a pace slow enough to look around for funny books without just googling the answers. Without 1-3 irritated other people.
I finally made a forum account here just because I have checked every couple months across other sites, just to check in about this. I got tired of the waiting and I’m glad people are still bringing this up. <3
Yes! Welcome to the forums, but yeah, Fatshark refuses to acknowledge the feature and is going for the toddler response of “if we don’t respond, then we won’t get in trouble.” but I was actually logging in to make sure this thread stays open. I won’t let them continue to pretend this isn’t an issue.