Actually get deathspitter. Unlike FF it is actually power so will increase cleave.
Throw the kickback in there whike youre at it
You just described almost every weapon in this game
Shotguns are balanced and perfectly fine at the moment. They are in the top 5 ranged options for zealots. Moreover, all the 3 shotgun patterns are good. The lawbringer is slightly behind only because its special shot is the weakest, but still not totally useless because itās useful at thinning hordes from a distance when you are immobile for whatever reasons (defending someone doing interrogator, carrying a cell, rezing a teammate etcā¦).
Of course you need to put specific blessings on them (like most of weapons in this game):
- āno respiteā is mandatory
- then āfull boreā or āfire frenzy/deathspitterā depending on your playstyle
If you want a good ranged weapon for zealot that doesnāt require specific blessings to be good, I advise you to play the agripinaa braced autogun. Itās probably the most blessing non-dependent weapon in the game now that I think about it.
On this you would ultimately want ādeathspitterā and āfire frenzyā but they arenāt mandatory and small blessing pool means they come up very often
About shotguns ammo: I never have trouble with ammo on my shotguns btw. They are not meant to be used as a sustained fire platform in the first place
Doesnāt work: fire frenzy doesnāt stay long enough (2,75 sec) to spam special shells into a horde and benefit from it. Same goes for kantrael fire special ammo. Fire frenzy/deathspitter are useful when magdumping your whole clip into a mixed horde boltgun-style
On Zealot? Yeah, their ammo could be better but its not a huge problem. On Vet, especially with the Kantrael? You are an ammo box eating machine.
Yes it does. Not really sure what else to tell you here. The window isnāt even all that tight, although you do have to reload and fire again quickly. In practice it works best when youāre not the only melee class, but it thins a horde well enough.
Go replicate it in the meat grinder if you donāt believe me.
I will! Thanks
It works mb! I think in my head I got stuck on the 1,75 sec from a couple patches ago and kept thinking it didnāt work without retrying with the added extra second.
Question is: is it efficient? Like, does it make it good at horde thinning/clearing and justifies removing āfull boreā to put this instead? I reckon it can give up to +50% power! I donāt have much time to play atm to try new combos
YMMV. If you need help with hordes but still want a ranged weapon that can accurately hit single targets (shooter patrols, specials, etc), you can consider it. Itās what Iām missing when running thunder hammer, so thatās when I use it. Itās not fantastic at killing hordes or anything, but fire frenzy does make killing poxwalkers in a single shot a much more reliable affair than it would be otherwise.
Of course I realize that there are other good companions to TH as well. The autopistol and agripinaa braced auto are both great and can magdump into a horde if you need it. But for me, they lack the accuracy of the lawbringer (esp. with ADS!), and every time Iām staring down shooters that are behind cover, I wish I had the shotgun instead.
But both autopistol and braced auto are easier to play and less demanding in terms of crafting, so I suspect most people will prefer those. Also, Iām not saying that the special shell on lawbringer is all that great. It could use a buff. But it does have a use case, if you build for it.
Iām happy with combat shotguns, more or less.
I tend to use them for shooter squad removals, one shot per target kill letās you wipe a squad.
Canāt say I really use them on hordes. More for specials, shooters and elites. The ads mode feels almost compulsory to focus the damage in these situations else (I find) Iām using twice as many shots from the hip.
Itās then pretty good at range, and as mentioned, the Agri slug mode makes it a sniper rifle albeit one with no sights as such.
Kantrael has nice high damage; not sure Iām a big user of the fire sheāll except on bullwarks.
Lawbringer I donāt use as Iāve just not worked out the alt fires purpose.