# WTH is going on with these aimbot gunners? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Feedback\ **Created:** [June 27, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457 "2024-06-27T22:20:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fbolduc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e36b37/32.png) [@fbolduc](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/fbolduc)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2024, 10:20pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/1 "2024-06-27T22:20:02Z")
Gunners have become aimbot or what? ---
**Author:** ![Frish](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/frish/32/70212_2.png) [@Frish](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Frish)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/2 "2024-06-28T00:39:30Z")
Yeah, it’s pretty oppressive. I don’t mind melee enemies or specials having more teeth, but as it is even a little minion gunnery dude can ruin your day! ---
**Author:** ![JerryBeansMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e79b87/32.png) [@JerryBeansMan](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/JerryBeansMan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/3 "2024-06-28T00:46:14Z")
They went nuts on buffing every enemy type with the update and didn’t say anything about it in the patchnotes. It’s so strange how they’ve repeatedly nerfed Gunners over time because of how annoying they are if they’re too strong and yet someone on the team keeps slipping in secret buffs for them that make them terrible all over again. They were in a pretty decent spot for a moment there and now they’re crazy again. That and special gunner packs are bigger than ever. I keep seeing Dreg Gunner formations of like 10+ of the guys spawn in all at once and take up an insane amount of room. You can move in to suppress them but the batch will be so huge and spread out that the ones further away will laser focus you down. It’s pretty bizarre to deal with. ---
**Author:** ![alsozara](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/alsozara/32/6944_2.png) [@alsozara](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/alsozara)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 12:52am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/4 "2024-06-28T00:52:52Z")
Honestly they were previously nerfed to the point where anti shooter ranged weapon became an irrelevant niche. I still kinda miss the butt clenching terror of initial release shotgunners. People have gotten used to getting away with being sloppy and careless around shooters, likely people will adjust pretty soon. They were wimpy and lame. Hooray for Chad gunners. Challenging enemies you actually need to think about and interact intelligently with are good, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Frish](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/frish/32/70212_2.png) [@Frish](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Frish)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/5 "2024-06-28T01:08:55Z")
Ha, yeah, I may complain about gunners specifically but I don’t play the game to not be stressed out! I just hate those damn shooties, and I wish that curio gunner resistance affected the little guys. I’ve specced max toughness on my Ogryn already! ---
**Author:** ![dragomusic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dragomusic/32/77374_2.png) [@dragomusic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/dragomusic)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/6 "2024-06-28T02:13:39Z")
> [@alsozara](#): > > Hooray for Chad gunners. I’d be fine with them doing insane damage but being staggered so much you can’t move is incredibly frustrating and I hope they remove it. I get being unable to run so you can’t just run up to them and melee them, but it’s way too much at the moment especailly with their density in certain events. ---
**Author:** ![RTO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RTO](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/RTO)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/7 "2024-06-28T02:37:17Z")
I don’t think they have better aim. At least it doesn’t affect the way I usually play. I think they are coming for more angles because of new spawn spots. Since they are now coming from all directions, it makes it feel like they have better aim for you maybe? ---
**Author:** ![zaygr](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/zaygr/32/71131_2.png) [@zaygr](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/zaygr)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:02am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/8 "2024-06-28T03:02:23Z")
Gunners explicitly track you faster now. ---
**Author:** ![JaynSilver](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/jaynsilver/32/37639_2.png) [@JaynSilver](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/JaynSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/9 "2024-06-28T03:13:44Z")
> [@Fatshark doesn’t include the most important information in the patch notes](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/fatshark-doesn-t-include-the-most-important-information-in-the-patch-notes/96443): > > I’m a fan of SotMG. I like the weapons. The map is aesthetically and thematically excellent. The numerous QoL changes, while your mileage may vary, is a solid effort at improving the game. What tweaks me are the unannounced modifications to enemy stats and the way the AI Director spawns mobs. Players should be made aware of these types of changes, which are more impactful to gameplay than any new weapon or map. I’m not arguing that the changes should not have been made. Some folks will like th… Sad, but true. It’s been added to the Book Of Grudges. ---
**Author:** ![MarxistDictator](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/marxistdictator/32/106716_2.png) [@MarxistDictator](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MarxistDictator)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/10 "2024-06-28T04:39:35Z")
Regular gunhands are pretty tough too, they are really spammy when they start shooting. Reapers particularly got a fairly huge buff, the Nurgle blessed ones are an absolute menace atm they will actually ‘tear you up’ like his VO claims. ---
**Author:** ![ForumWarrior](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/forumwarrior/32/80804_2.png) [@ForumWarrior](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ForumWarrior)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 5:06am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/11 "2024-06-28T05:06:06Z")
I like it a lot. Being able to mindlessly run up to a group of guys with machine guys was ridiculous. You can still engage them with melee, it just requires a little more coordination and personal skill. Overall a good change imo ---
**Author:** ![MadMartigan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/madmartigan/32/85568_2.png) [@MadMartigan](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MadMartigan)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 6:48am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/12 "2024-06-28T06:48:05Z")
I don’t mind them being buffed but they shouldn’t pivot as if they’re a mounted turret. Either make them hench or make them track unrealisitically. I dont think it should be both tbh, especially as there are now 10 billion more of them per match. ---
**Author:** ![Cheturnadcatii](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cheturnadcatii/32/79639_2.png) [@Cheturnadcatii](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cheturnadcatii)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 8:04am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/13 "2024-06-28T08:04:55Z")
I love new gunners but i also dislike stunlock. It just nearly impossible to do something if u out of tougness. Even one of them could just melt my psyker. BUT…BUT…I love more dangerous enemies because now skill difference is what MATTERS. ---
**Author:** ![Ralendil](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ralendil/32/108313_2.png) [@Ralendil](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ralendil)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 9:15am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/14 "2024-06-28T09:15:47Z")
> [@JerryBeansMan](#): > > They went nuts on buffing every enemy type with the update and didn’t say anything about it in the patchnotes. surely linked to future blessings they will put in game… they have put changes, but not yet the crafting changes… this could explain that. > [@MadMartigan](#): > > I don’t mind them being buffed but they shouldn’t pivot as if they’re a mounted turret. I agree even if I don’t care about gunners. However, trappers should not be able to change the direction of their net after they have shot it… ---
**Author:** ![Cheturnadcatii](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cheturnadcatii/32/79639_2.png) [@Cheturnadcatii](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Cheturnadcatii)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/15 "2024-06-28T09:22:00Z")
> [@Ralendil](#): > > trappers should not be able to change the direction of their net after they have shot it The best solution to trappers problem - kill it as soon as u can. ---
**Author:** ![Ralendil](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ralendil/32/108313_2.png) [@Ralendil](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ralendil)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 9:23am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/16 "2024-06-28T09:23:11Z")
exactly what I do… I bombard them with explosive shells and they cease to laugth… ---
**Author:** ![fbolduc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e36b37/32.png) [@fbolduc](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/fbolduc)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/17 "2024-06-28T20:53:02Z")
> [@Ralendil](#): > > surely linked to future blessings they will put in game… they have put changes, but not yet the crafting changes… this could explain that. I can already imagine the future patch notes: “By the way, we forgot to tell you about the gunners a couple months back. Here are the changes we made…” For some reason, I doubt this will ever happen. ---
**Author:** ![fbolduc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e36b37/32.png) [@fbolduc](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/fbolduc)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/18 "2024-06-28T20:58:21Z")
> [@Secrets of the Machine God - OUT NOW - Pt.2](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/secrets-of-the-machine-god-out-now-pt-2/96132): > > Devoted Rejects, You are now reading pt. 2 of the patch notes for Secrets of the Machine Gods. [[Part 1](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/secrets-of-the-machine-god-out-now-pt-1/96131)] [[Part 2](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/secrets-of-the-machine-god-out-now-pt-2/96132/)] Additional Weapon Changes Atrox Mk VII Tactical Axe Increased the range of the Light 2 and Light 3 attacks to be more in line with the Light 1 range, to avoid missing on the following attacks when chaining light attacks at the very edge of the weapon range. Tweaked the hitbox of the Light 2 attack to be more aligned wit… Look at that! ---
**Author:** ![Mummeh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Mummeh](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Mummeh)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/19 "2024-06-28T21:03:44Z")
The little shooters are worse than the gunners now. atleast you can get gunner resistance for the elite shooters ---
**Author:** ![MarkUSN06](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/markusn06/32/78946_2.png) [@MarkUSN06](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MarkUSN06)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457/20 "2024-06-28T21:14:07Z")
Personally, it feels like defense curio resistances are bugged and don’t do nearly the advertised damage resistance. [Next page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/wth-is-going-on-with-these-aimbot-gunners/96457.md?page=2)