# Will Talents See Further Changes? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Feedback\ **Created:** [August 7, 2019, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/will-talents-see-further-changes/34771 "2019-08-07T23:36:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GitGud](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/gitgud/32/27162_2.png) [@GitGud](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/GitGud)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/will-talents-see-further-changes/34771/21 "2019-08-13T08:52:49Z")
Why the heck does Shade have 2 mouvment speed talent on the same tree, +20%MS if you crit and +10%MS as base mouvment speed increase ??? I know they want to promote a choice between 2 kind of mouvment speed talent but to me it looks unexciting and more like a place holder. Ranger veteran has also the same issue. Also why are some talent so BAD, i wanted to do a full bleed HM build so i took the bleed talent and the dodge trough mobs talent. I tried it in modded relam and realized the bleed total damage is equal to 9. WTF??? Is this only intended for recruit or what ??? ---
**Author:** ![Drakonhammer](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/drakonhammer/32/20413_2.png) [@Drakonhammer](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Drakonhammer)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/will-talents-see-further-changes/34771/22 "2019-08-13T09:21:37Z")
> [@Wylbhr](#): > > > I was just beginning to enjoy the ol’ Axe Falchion shooty BH, now I shoot less > > I just realized the new double shot talent is (I assume) bugged and returns 40% cooldown for _each shot_ instead of just 40%… so you can basically spam career skill throughout the map and fire it like an automatic weapon with a purple pot. So that’s a thing. Kills bosses faster than pre-balance Shade. Is the WHC CDR talent still bugged too? In the previous betas it’d return 40% CD per 10 enemies hit, instead of 40% total. > [@GitGud](#): > > Why the heck does Shade have 2 mouvment speed talent on the same tree, +20%MS if you crit and +10%MS as base mouvment speed increase ??? I know they want to promote a choice between 2 kind of mouvment speed talent but to me it looks unexciting and more like a place holder. Ranger veteran has also the same issue. And worse, we criticized exactly those things in the previous betas and yet here we are. On the overabundance of MS talents specifically I remember that, while there are people who like MS talents, the majority definitely did not, and at the very least the vast majority thought there were too many (based on the polling). Having two in one tier was especially unpopular. That at least shouldn’t happen (I’m fine with them keeping the odd _one_ in a tier here and there for people who like them to take, but not two in one tier). ~~Also FS please for the love of Sigmar put the level 35 talents back on level 30, I don’t know which Tzeentchian puppet convinced you to do this but I can’t think of anything positive this has brought~~ Edit: They did it! Yes!!! ---
**Author:** ![Krator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@Krator](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Krator)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/will-talents-see-further-changes/34771/23 "2019-08-13T11:45:08Z")
Yeah, BH choices are horrible. I have always used the encore talent because I loved the versatility of the ult. Now the best choice of lvl 30 talent is to not choose at all. Double shotted is only useful vs bosses, because CW dies anyway. I mean, meyybe not on Cata, but seriously, legend is where 95% of players will stay anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Wylbhr](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/wylbhr/32/24509_2.png) [@Wylbhr](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Wylbhr)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/will-talents-see-further-changes/34771/24 "2019-08-13T23:03:43Z")
> [@Drakonhammer](#): > > Edit: They did it! Yes!!! Progress! ---
**Author:** ![Wylbhr](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/wylbhr/32/24509_2.png) [@Wylbhr](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Wylbhr)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/will-talents-see-further-changes/34771/25 "2019-08-15T23:18:27Z")
> [@Krator](#): > > Yeah, BH choices are horrible. I have always used the encore talent because I loved the versatility of the ult. Now the best choice of lvl 30 talent is to not choose at all. Fixed as of the latest patch! There’s now a talent that simply gives you 15% cooldown on ranged crit (once per 10 seconds) without modifying the skill. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/3/1/319a2f41b73f03a4d9360defbe43058888a33c8c.png) [@system](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/will-talents-see-further-changes/34771/26 "2019-08-22T23:23:35Z")
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