# What is you're problem with helmets and gasmasks being in the same place **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 10, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536 "2023-11-10T20:41:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Enclave](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/enclave/32/73043_2.png) [@Enclave](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Enclave)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/21 "2023-11-11T08:16:50Z")
Honestly I can’t see why it can’t be for both Like I can understand a lot of the zealot cosmetics we have now wouldn’t fit But hood and gasmask would be a great fit for vet as well. I really hope fatshark literally do the very simple of thing of making available for veteran as well. ---
**Author:** ![StrawberryMerp](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/strawberrymerp/32/67613_2.png) [@StrawberryMerp](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/StrawberryMerp)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/22 "2023-11-11T13:41:26Z")
I just want the helmet off the game cover lol, Don’t know why Fatshark put it on the game cover and on some npcs in game but made it so you can’t get it for you’re character at all in game not even with the funny money ---
**Author:** ![Khorne\_Dawg](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/khorne_dawg/32/111464_2.png) [@Khorne\_Dawg](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Khorne_Dawg)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/23 "2023-11-11T14:56:32Z")
Darktide loading screen Vet helmet on top ---
**Author:** ![zaygr](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/zaygr/32/71131_2.png) [@zaygr](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/zaygr)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 5:04pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/24 "2023-11-11T17:04:30Z")
Or just have it so you get a head slot set where you can customise goggles/mask/helmet on/off so you set the desired look. But that would never happen because it means Fatshark can’t sell you the same set of 3 cosmetics 7 separate times in different combinations. ---
**Author:** ![Leertaste](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/leertaste/32/54458_2.png) [@Leertaste](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Leertaste)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/25 "2023-11-11T18:20:07Z")
The only good commissars, understanding the job and all the tools at their hand seem to be the named ones: Ibram Gaunt Victor Hark Severine Raine Ciaphas Cain Sebastian Yarrick. All of them executed soldiers they deemed deserving the judgment. All of them struck fear into soldiers heart to achieve whatever they needed to achieve. All of them encouraged their soldiers. All of them bonded (to a certain degree) to their charges. All of them used propaganda to ralley on the troops. All of them lied and told selective truths. It is the nameless Commissar, that is written so badly as if they all were tactical imcompetent idiots just happy to shoot soldiers and waiting for the oportunity to do so. But I have to admit: sometimes a soldier leaving their post to aid the medics in their job might lead to more casulties. First priority in tactical situations is to keep the enemy down with fire so that medics might do their job as save as possible … so the Commissar might have tried to prevent his line from falling apart out of the “urge to helpt”. but I can’t remember that mentioned text atm, so I’m not sure about it and would have to double check. ---
**Author:** ![Morrtanius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@Morrtanius](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Morrtanius)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/26 "2023-11-12T00:30:44Z")
> The Imperium is cruel _because_ it cares; because it’s mired in a situation so grim that it’s often necessary to trade thousands or millions of lives to save trillions. That’s the reality that Commissars operate in: where you might have to field-execute one man to prevent his panic infecting the rest of the firing line because morale can be a fragile thing and you _really_ need _everyone_ concentrating on bringing down that alien behemoth screaming up the hill towards your position because if they don’t then you’re _all_ going to die. No. Cruelty is cruel because it comes from a lack of care. Evil is oftentimes simply banal and occurs usually because the ones that could prevent it just don’t care. The imperial commissars are modelled on the commissars of the soviet union in all but appearance. They are political officers. Political. **Political** officers. By design, their training is not aimed towards producing capable officers, but ideological enforcers. Skill and capability get substituted for blind ideological obedience and brainwashing during their training. If you think the reasons that the nameless commissars of the imperium use to justify mass-killings and purges of a given population are silly and unrealistic, you will find plenty occurrences in the history of the Soviet Union that were far more cruel, unnecessary, gratuitous and downright self-defeating. The best quote to give an example of the modern mindset of that would be from Arkady Babchenko, a Russian journalist and writer that fought in the Chechen wars as a Russian conscript: > Everybody beats everyone. > The dembels, with three months service to go, the officers, the warrant officers. They get stinking drunk and then hammer the ones below them. Even the colonels beat the majors, the majors beat the lieutenants, and they all beat the privates; and granddads beat new recruits. > No-one talks to each other like human beings, they just smack each other in the mouth. Because it’s easier that way, quicker and simpler to understand. Because ‘you’re all going to snuff it anyway, you bitches’. > Because there are unfed children back home, because the officer corps is addled with impoverishment and hopelessness, because a dembel has three months left, because every second man is shellshocked. Because our Motherland makes us kill people, our own people, who speak Russian, and we have to shoot them in the head and send their brains flying up the walls, crush them with tanks and tear them to pieces. > Because these people want to kill you, because your soldiers arrived yesterday straight from training and today they are already lying on the airstrip as lumps of charred flesh, and flies lay eggs in their open eyes, and because in a day the company is reduced to less than a third, and God willing, you’ll stay among that third. > Because the one thing that everyone knows is how to get drunk and kill, kill and kill some more. Because a soldier is a stinking wretch, and a spirit doesn’t have any right to live at all, and to beat him is to actually do him a favour. ‘I’ll teach you what war is about, you pricks! You can all have a smack in the mouth so you don’t think life is too rosy, and thank your mother that she didn’t have you six months earlier or you’d all be dead now!’ ---
**Author:** ![Ralendil](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ralendil/32/108313_2.png) [@Ralendil](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ralendil)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/27 "2023-11-12T01:11:12Z")
I just hope the body will be somewhat recon oriented… with the mod that allow to recolor locally, it would suit well. For the “helmet”… 🤣 I don’t know if they could choose worse. I guess it is cause they hated to have to rework veteran skill tree, and veteran class had to pay for that. Would love to have a true kasrkin helmet… but we will have a gas mask awful instead. (specially cause I love the stealth gameplay of the veteran that push me to play this class more and more) ---
**Author:** ![Enclave](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/enclave/32/73043_2.png) [@Enclave](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Enclave)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/28 "2023-11-12T01:59:54Z")
![IMG_6468](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/a/f/af599350222e799444eecabb9ba8d76e0336890d.jpeg) This fan made image scares fatshark ---
**Author:** ![AmkoTheTerrible](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/amkotheterrible/32/54577_2.png) [@AmkoTheTerrible](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/AmkoTheTerrible)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 3:26am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/29 "2023-11-12T03:26:17Z")
God I want it so much ---
**Author:** ![StrawberryMerp](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/strawberrymerp/32/67613_2.png) [@StrawberryMerp](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/StrawberryMerp)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/30 "2023-11-12T14:19:57Z")
That looks so cool shame fatshark would add that and charge an arm and leg for it and for it to be missing the goggles or some other part so they can sell you the whole thing 7 months later for a whole new price _cough_ _cough_ Steel legion gasmask _cough_ ---
**Author:** ![Eisenfaust](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/eisenfaust/32/64598_2.png) [@Eisenfaust](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Eisenfaust)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/31 "2023-11-12T15:13:12Z")
> [@Leertaste](#): > > so the Commissar might have tried to prevent his line from falling apart out of the “urge to helpt”. > but I can’t remember that mentioned text atm, so I’m not sure about it and would have to double check. It’s from Justin D Hills “Cadia Stands” - The Planet is already lost and the beaten Cadian regiments try to enter the evacuation barks. The commissar sees one soldier in the column aiding wounded comrades who hasn’t a rifle. He questions the soldiers and find out that this is a decorated hero who lost his rifle in extremely rough combat - then he executes the soldier for losing his rifle. ---
**Author:** ![StrawberryMerp](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/strawberrymerp/32/67613_2.png) [@StrawberryMerp](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/StrawberryMerp)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/32 "2023-11-12T15:18:02Z")
That’s the battle primers for ya most Commissars fallow that like it’s a law book, Really good read if you find a pdf of it ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/0/a/0a41bcfefcc2b3d0da803b3cf103080c1ed922b7.jpeg) Edit - Found the one part I find funny since makes no sense given how they are with big e being seen as a god in 40k xD ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/b/b/bbf7cc58305d854a6f2cb51f700ab6e342862733.jpeg) ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/4/7/479cbe896ce3d7d45b5e036853fb4284b10fe0c0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![AmkoTheTerrible](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/amkotheterrible/32/54577_2.png) [@AmkoTheTerrible](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/AmkoTheTerrible)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/33 "2023-11-12T17:52:53Z")
Honestly the first one is a bit overboard but the latter two are reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![Warp-Rider](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/warp-rider/32/68381_2.png) [@Warp-Rider](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Warp-Rider)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 6:04pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/34 "2023-11-12T18:04:04Z")
Honestly I’m just mad that the Zealot gets the Sniper hood but the Vet SHARP-SHOOTER get’s a gasmask an no fragging helmet at the very least. ---
**Author:** ![StrawberryMerp](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/strawberrymerp/32/67613_2.png) [@StrawberryMerp](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/StrawberryMerp)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/35 "2023-11-12T18:55:06Z")
it’s not that the last two are unreasonable but that it’s funny hurting you’re self is seen as worse than bad talking the full on god they are told to look up to or die Hurting you’re self you get flogged, flayed then shot Bad talking god you get flogged then shot ---
**Author:** ![StrawberryMerp](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/strawberrymerp/32/67613_2.png) [@StrawberryMerp](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/StrawberryMerp)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/36 "2023-11-12T18:56:13Z")
Full on every skin they are giving us is just reused npc gear they are giving us and calling good as new ---
**Author:** ![Eisenfaust](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/eisenfaust/32/64598_2.png) [@Eisenfaust](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Eisenfaust)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/37 "2023-11-12T19:20:37Z")
> [@AmkoTheTerrible](#): > > but the latter two are reasonable. No? ---
**Author:** ![Enclave](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/enclave/32/73043_2.png) [@Enclave](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Enclave)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/38 "2023-11-12T20:10:03Z")
Inb4 the googles are on the helmet God that annoys me with a few helmets in dt. No I don’t want them stowed what’s the point I actually want my character wearing them. ---
**Author:** ![Enclave](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/enclave/32/73043_2.png) [@Enclave](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Enclave)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/39 "2023-11-12T20:13:09Z")
It’s such an easy thing to just have it be available for all regular human characters But we all know they won’t because fatshark. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/3/1/319a2f41b73f03a4d9360defbe43058888a33c8c.png) [@system](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/what-is-youre-problem-with-helmets-and-gasmasks-being-in-the-same-place/86536/40 "2023-11-19T20:13:23Z")
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