In fairness, not a priority >< isn’t worked on anymore
So it’s still possible that they are planning it, but it’s not important
I’m also waiting for it, no matter if with bots or true solo.
Most players for me are playing too fast and rush through the levels.
When i recently came back to play the new maps, i again realized that.
Sure when you have played some Maps 500 times, you know them like the back of your hand, but still i like to go a little slower than most others.
I can keep up if i know the map, the new maps make me do down more often, because i dont know them and instead to “explore” them in my pace i have to keep up with the team.
I would like to play new maps solo first and also all maps from time to time, just what fits my mood better this day.
Game is still barebones with lots of flaws that could easily be made better.
from fomo to RNG bs, to MP/ SP modes etc.
its still like a year back then the core slaughter is fun, everything else is medicre to utterly bad
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technically true - but this is as close to “isn’t worked on anymore” as they are willing to get verbally.
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no , id liek everyone to enjoy the game ,but its not up to me, its up to the devs. so im trying to guess what it looks like for them
it might be a huge issue it might be tiny, it might also not be the only concern, people do tend to flow down the path of least resistance your opening up a huge can of worms if the complete rate for bots is higher , how many people that are currently happy to play random games will suddenly swap to solo bot games if they seem marginally more productive? will we have people making the game boring for themselves farming solo the same well known map over and over?
now all these and more may be tiny insignificant issues, but it would be negligence on a devs part to not consider them. imo.
sounds boring, why on earth you want to play solo? playing with other people is fun and challenging
Man, I don’t need them to make the bots better, or have bots at all. I just want to be able to join a mission to screw around without hurting other players.
I hate that I can’t speed run missions for melk contracts without dragging a friend along or screwing over low level players that join. I wish that I could practice being self sufficient by playing high difficulties by myself. It’s lame that I can’t even queue in and take a leisurely stroll around the maps to sightsee or scout for scriptures / grims without slowing people down.
(I know there is a solo mod that will let me do that, but it doesn’t help with melk contracts and it doesn’t help console players either 
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Working on solo content for this game is an abhorrent mis-allocation of resources. I have thousands of hours of Quick Play in VT2 and DT. Occasionally you get a bad actor but players are chill. The devs should not welcome players who are too stupid to play with randoms.
There actually is a process that lets you play solo with bots. No mod required and it even works on console. Assuming you have an entire 2nd xbox set up nearby. (I use my wife’s when she is not on it).
The bots as they are now do work and they even have different stats and cosmetics depending on which difficulty your bringing them to. I have played plenty of matches solo and adores being able to go at my own pace enjoying the level and not be arbitrary rushed along at a sprint by randoms and it was delightfull.
Literally the only thing at all keeping people from playing solo with bots is the two player requirements that is it.
The bots could be vastly improved yes its very true but i find the bots passable…though not up to vermintide levels.
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I play for thousands of hours, most people don’t do speedruns and toxic things. I am a nice player but when I see antisocial posts like you, I will judge you hard and think little of you. This game is made for 4-player Quick Play with randoms. Dedicating dev time and resources to solo play is a complete waste of time and money.
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If it makes you feel better, I am equally hostile to toxic and speedrunning and metagaming players as well. In my eyes, solo antisocial people are just as bad though.
Not entirely sure why every single post that brings up solo has people with the incredibly myopic view that if you play with bots you exclusively play with bots.
It’s always the same 2 things from them.
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Why bots? Players are better lol
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It’s a co-op game. You HAVE to play co-op.
If you have a solo mode available you can use it to test builds that you are uncertain of in a somewhat suitable test environment. There is a solo mod that I use to test things atm, but the bots are actually completely irredeemable so the tests aren’t very good though I’d be lying if I said it doesn’t help.
Sometimes you also don’t want to play with people.
Sometimes you spent a long day at work dealing with people.
You want to unwind, blast some heretics? Guess what you gotta deal with people.
Apparently, I’m anti-social if I prefer to hoof it solo sometimes.
If I make a post here, or on the steam forums I will get the same 2 responses every time though. Like god damn clockwork.
I’ve yet to see a proper response as to why it isn’t viable to implement especially since we already have mods that make it work (like the Tertium 5 mod to get fully kitted out bots that I should probably install now that I’m talking about it).
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You can test a build by playing it in a normal, 4 player game. You’re not a metagamer, right? You wouldn’t min/max offline before you play online. Only metagamers do that. If you are, then I don’t care about you and neither should the devs.
Sometimes not wanting to play with people renders you invalid for this game. The devs shouldn’t waste time on you.
I work in a concierge, I deal with people. Doesn’t render me anti-social and incapable of engaging with the wholesome silent teamwork of Darktide’s random squads.
I frequently find playing Darktide without friends to be a fun way to unwind. I do not stress while playing Darktide because I am intelligent and not anti-social.
The proper response to why a solo mode with better bots isn’t available is that it would divert valuable dev time and dev resources to make bots better for the very low % of players who want to do something so incredibly boring as playing Darktide without other people and they CORRECTLY and RIGHTFULLY refuse such requests.
You can bring your silly, unoptimized builds into Damnation and Maelstrom. I will not judge you. Most people will be ok with you. I WILL judge you harshly though if you request that the devs waste time and money on a ridiculous solo mode. “Better bots” is not something you script in one afternoon. It would waste precious time they could be using to make a new enemy faction such as Greenskins or Genestealers. If they waste time on your stupid request, I will harbor deep resentment for you.
And for context, I just rolled a new Accatran lasgun on my Veteran and brought it to a Damnation mission with random players. My damage output was rancid. I still had fun. Nobody died. Nobody complained. You don’t have to metagame. Most people don’t care how good your build is.
I don’t even know where to begin with this one. It’s such a big pile of nothing.
Meta builds are a thing. Plasma gun vets (or w/e the hell it is now), IndiCrusher Zealots, Bulwark Ogryns, Smite Shield psykers etc.
Are they not important to the devs?
Or are you using metagamer as a term in a TTRPG? In which case this is an even bigger steaming pile of nothing statement.
That’s for them to decide. The mods are already made. They could pay the authors, and put it in the game.
Cool comment bro. I’m sure everyone has your exact neuro chemistry and tolerance for people.
Sometimes I have to recharge, and not consider what other people are doing. It’s cool you don’t. You invalidating that because you don’t have to is toxic at best.
I won’t be ok with me. The longer a game goes on the more everyone will want to win. Auric missions in particular can be very long, and if we lose because I was testing something dumb I’m going to be mad that I let 3 other people down strangers, or not.
Inb4 you try to dictate how much a person should care about something.
Good thing some mod authors already did it for them. Good thing the framework is already there in the same engine from VT2 that already exists.
TL;DR Not everyone is exactly like you.
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@BigSneeze
Seldom have I read more egocentric posts then yours in this thread.
“The only way to play DT, is my way. Everyone doing it (or wanting to do it) differently is bad. You play meta? Bad! You like to speedrun? Bad! You want to Solo? Bad! You don’t like when people bring ineffecient/untested builds into damnation and cause mission failure? Bad!”
Seriously just consider once that other people may see things differently!
For the record a non exhaustive list of reasons for having Solo in a 4P Coop game:
- goofing around with silly stuff (others may not like it when you do that)
- taking your time and slowly explore the map (others may not like it when you do that)
- Having full control over your strike team, striving for synergys in cross character loadouts
- Having the ability to NOT engage with other people after a stressfull day (Hello neurodivergence)
- No immersion breaking by other players (Yes immersion and atmosphere are why I play DT - I don’t care for challenge)
- Being able to play in spite of terrible internet infrastructure (Hello Germany)
- It’s industry standard! (Seriously - name three L4D clones that don’t feature solo mode!)
You don’t have to want Solo yourself - but you should accept that many more people than you think want a solo mode. And that they have good reasons for it.
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This is the main reason for me.
I find people extremely stressful and like to choose when and where to interact.
Because I find people stressful I like to get good at something before joining the perceived merciless crowd of potentiallty unforgiving fanatics.
Thankfully because of my experience on previous Tide games I settled in to pubs much sooner than I anticipated but still, its been less than satisfactory and there are times where I just dont turn the game on purely because I cannot just relax and do my own thing.
I look forward to Solo mode.
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The only hard cost I can think of is increased server load due to more simultaneous game sessions. Although they’ve mentioned this will be a locally hosted instance, so there may be issues with this feature currently.
Other than that the only reason I can think of to not enable solo private lobbies (THIS is the minimum requirement to provide a ‘solo mode’) is that the bots as they are do not provide a polished enough experience to launch as a feature.
Either way it would be greatly appreciated (and, unfortunately, also probably outrage-sparking) to have a transparent communication regarding a feature that was in fact promised:
“Can I play Darktide solo?”, “Can I play a private game with one or two of my friends?”.
The answers will be Yes, and Yes.
Not expecting the world, just want to know what’s up.
I wish those things that were “fixed to a much better state” were even finished. Not saying they haven’t improved a lot, but 25% going to 50% is a lot yet still not nearly 100%.
I wish I was joking when I say this, but I genuinely don’t think solo mode or even the item system are going to be fully finished until 2025. This estimate is from observing Fatshark’s development speed and prioritization all the way from before the game even released.
the most likely reason is that they screwed up their first try and are just not really thinking about a better way to go about it. half the reason tide games have such janky netcode is they get hung up on a way to do something and force it to “work” even when it should never be done that way.
We absolutely need a solo private mode. This game is great fun for drop-in/drop-out gameplay but the lack of solo mode means this game will never get the support from me and my friends that V2 did. For reference, me and my mates all bought every DLC for V2 and played weekly like clockwork. I’m the only one that’s tried Darktide, and the others won’t touch it until they can play solo when the others aren’t available.
Every few months I’ll load up and check out the status of the game and feedback the good stuff, but it simply won’t change until this basic function is enabled. Come on Fatshark, just do it already! We don’t care if the bots are a bit dumb and we have to lower difficulties when playing solo, just let us have the option to relax sometimes!
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