# The Traitor Curse Part 1 Anniversary Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** devpost, patchnotes\ **Created:** [November 14, 2023, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764 "2023-11-14T10:11:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Crayvun](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/crayvun/32/60745_2.png) [@Crayvun](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Crayvun)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/163 "2023-11-15T01:02:23Z")
Nice, alright I’ll give it a shot. Time to dust off the old bolter. What melee you rocking, powersword? If its fun I shall amend my statement lol ---
**Author:** ![anon61080228](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@anon61080228](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/anon61080228)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/164 "2023-11-15T01:06:16Z")
Since bolter is slow to swap it makes you vulnerable already, better take high mobility melee (i prefer devil’s claw or chainsword), also for no keystones build take frag nades, cause krak to survivalist takes 1 more node. ---
**Author:** ![Skaleek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Skaleek](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Skaleek)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 1:15am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/165 "2023-11-15T01:15:09Z")
> [@FatsharkCatfish](#): > > Fixed issue where the Nomanus Mk VI Surge Force Staff received the ‘Smite’ Bonuses from ‘Empowered Psionics’. Even with this, the surge staff was only just _okay_, please take a look at the surge staff. It’s very bad. ---
**Author:** ![Magnus91](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Magnus91](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Magnus91)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 1:50am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/166 "2023-11-15T01:50:54Z")
I agree. The Surge staff was fun to play recently. Now it goes back in the broom closet. Thanks FS! (not really) ---
**Author:** ![Effigy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e99b99/32.png) [@Effigy](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Effigy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/167 "2023-11-15T03:12:09Z")
A lot of good changes here, but the Veteran talent tree feels like a straight downgrade from the previous version. I hope it will be reevaluated in the near future. ---
**Author:** ![tinybike](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tinybike/32/90124_2.png) [@tinybike](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/tinybike)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 3:41am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/168 "2023-11-15T03:41:44Z")
> [@Nish](#): > > Who said that? Do people like that exist? I enjoyed the banter in Ascension Riser, although for the new map I prefer the more straitlaced Morrow/Wolfer dialogue. The Hallowette/Melk version is still good tho ---
**Author:** ![TASADAR101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@TASADAR101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/TASADAR101)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 4:08am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/169 "2023-11-15T04:08:31Z")
Surge staff feels like it needs a big buff now, you reduced the number of targets and a full charge does…620 damage!? Smite does garbage damage that wont kill anything higher than some chaff, which is intended. I get the bug fix was to something not intending to be that “powerful” but now it feels like the surge staff either needs to hit more targets, which makes no real sense when smite exists OR buff surge staff damage so psyker has an alternate tool for dealing with specials that ISNT brain burst. Sure voidstrike staff is ok but if we all use voidstrike staff fatshark will just nerf that too knowing how they handled siena in V2. ---
**Author:** ![TASADAR101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@TASADAR101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/TASADAR101)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/170 "2023-11-15T04:11:56Z")
Also tried out the keystones for Vet and focus really makes no sense, you NEVER stand still enough to benefit from this perk. I think the right keystone is “ok” but none of the keystones really benefit veteran in a way that compliments HOW you build him. Sure focus gives ranges crit damage but you HAVE to keep moving to keep up with randoms or be left behind. The right tree is all about stealth so why make a keystone that forces you to switch weapons for a benefit? That’s not really going to help IMO. I havent tried the middle keystone yet there. ---
**Author:** ![TASADAR101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@TASADAR101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/TASADAR101)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 4:12am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/171 "2023-11-15T04:12:58Z")
Also Fatshark can ogryn please get a patch to some of the chest pieces to HAVE A SHIRT under the armor? Nobody likes half naked ogryn and the broken helmets are also annoying. This isn’t necromunda underhive. Edit because I really should keep it to one post. I really REALLY hope Fatshark considers using the end arena for a horde mode, Vermintide 1 had a kick ass survival/horde mode and I have been craving a decent horde mode in the series ever since. We really need some more social activities where we can kill heretics and chill without having to just linger in a mission. Another thing I would love to see is let us go to the bar on the morningstar and play cards or arm wrestle with eachother, just more social elements outside of “emotes”. I think adding new maps is the right direction, we really need more maps to play and pref more maps also in rotation at a given time so we’re not playing smelter 5 times in a row. ---
**Author:** ![Aiso44](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/aiso44/32/69857_2.png) [@Aiso44](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Aiso44)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/172 "2023-11-15T07:36:59Z")
> [@TASADAR101](#): > > Nobody likes half naked ogryn speak for yourself 😛 ---
**Author:** ![FatsharkCatfish](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/fatsharkcatfish/32/53978_2.png) [@FatsharkCatfish](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/FatsharkCatfish)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/173 "2023-11-15T08:28:37Z")
I hear you, I’m not sure we would rollback at this period in time - but I will be sure to give your feedback and see what I can do about changes going forward! ---
**Author:** ![Jagick](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/jagick/32/68566_2.png) [@Jagick](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Jagick)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 8:50am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/174 "2023-11-15T08:50:32Z")
> [@FatsharkCatfish](#): > > I hear you, I’m not sure we would rollback at this period in time - but I will be sure to give your feedback and see what I can do about changes going forward! Even if the dev team is unwilling to roll back the change to the Vet tree, a lot of us (I’m sure) would still ask that you at the very least mention this as a highly requested “solution” to the current problem. Because even if such a solution is rejected, it paints a **very** clear picture of how the community feels about this update that they’re willing to immediately return to a talent tree that many of us already found bad or at the very least lackluster over what we have now. So when presenting your feedback, please do not omit the desires for a roll back from some of the community. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![FreeReign121](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/freereign121/32/54910_2.png) [@FreeReign121](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/FreeReign121)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 9:14am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/175 "2023-11-15T09:14:30Z")
There are changes that were made that are not in the patch notes. For example, the Veteran’s “Fire Team” Aura used to only give 3% damage to the team. It now gives 5%. ---
**Author:** ![Warp-Rider](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/warp-rider/32/68381_2.png) [@Warp-Rider](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Warp-Rider)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/176 "2023-11-15T09:38:00Z")
To get it to work you have to gimp yourself by basically removing all of your talents so you have the basic grenade box. I did it on a malice mission and asked the fellas i was playing with to let me kill the corrupter eye. ---
**Author:** ![Yuma310](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/yuma310/32/84408_2.png) [@Yuma310](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Yuma310)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/177 "2023-11-15T10:18:55Z")
> [@FreeReign121](#): > > There are changes that were made that are not in the patch notes Trench Drill or whatever it’s called was reduced down to a THIRD of what it was. Not one mention of it in the patch notes. Not ONE. ---
**Author:** ![alsozara](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/alsozara/32/6944_2.png) [@alsozara](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/alsozara)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 10:25am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/178 "2023-11-15T10:25:38Z")
> [@Yuma310](#): > > Trench Drill or whatever it’s called was reduced down to a THIRD of what it was \*BY a third. Sorry to be pedantic but that wording bothers me. ---
**Author:** ![Yuma310](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/yuma310/32/84408_2.png) [@Yuma310](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Yuma310)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/179 "2023-11-15T11:10:24Z")
@alsozara k. You know, I did also say other things in my statement as well that I think might have had some merit, rather than merely serving as just a target for your pendantry scanner ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Tzcheese](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tzcheese/32/53773_2.png) [@Tzcheese](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Tzcheese)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/180 "2023-11-15T11:29:21Z")
> [@brosgw](#): > > I move too much to use left, I range too much to use right (and 5s isn’t enough), and things die too quickly to justify the middle. Succinct. This sums up my feelings as well. ---
**Author:** ![Poupeur](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/poupeur/32/47413_2.png) [@Poupeur](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Poupeur)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/181 "2023-11-15T11:37:58Z")
Makes absolutely no sense, since we already have both fsr 1 and 2. ---
**Author:** ![alsozara](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/alsozara/32/6944_2.png) [@alsozara](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/alsozara)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2023, 12:30pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764/182 "2023-11-15T12:30:33Z")
> [@Yuma310](#): > > You know, I did also say other things in my statement as well that I think might have had some merit I don’t think what I said suggested otherwise. Omission means agreeance without anything to add generally 👍 [Previous page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764.md?page=8) [Next page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-traitor-curse-part-1-anniversary-update/86764.md?page=10)