It WAS a great weapon. Perfectly balanced, it wasnt too strong, nor too weak. It only needed its 3rd mark melee adjusted and the sights changed to more clear one. Instead, they buffed the ranged damage to outrageous heights, castrated the melee and significantly reduced its swap time. Effectively t…

The old draw time was…unnecessary, and I’m glad it got changed, it was a huge downside with no commensurate payoff relative to other weapons. Watching every wannabe cosplaying Krieger repeatedly down themselves because they couldn’t manage the swap time wasn’t fun. Coupled with the literally nonexis…

its the byproduct of balancing up to havoc instead of balancing like 4 mechanics havoc players exploit to win and then claim are necessary to the game in every other thread. in fact I think some genius claimed it was a garbage weapon your team has to carry you in order for it to succeed, which made …

I used it in Havoc 40 (MK4) before the update and it was essentially already 1 shotting everything lol If anything the only difference I notice now is that the draw speed feels a lot better and that’s it

Old helbore builds used to require taking nodes to make the swap time and dedicating yourself to mmf exe or stealth with damage buffs to make really worthwhile. Now it’s kinda just a gun you can take in any build, which does suck. I think helbore represents the largest issue with the changes to tal…

[image] zircuits: Old helbore builds used to require taking nodes to make the swap time and dedicating yourself to mmf exe or stealth with damage buffs to make really worthwhile. Now it’s kinda just a gun you can take in any build, which does suck. For my part, I’m okay with this. If a weapon…

Highly disagree. Whats the point of there being 3 different weapons (helbore, lasgun, headhunter) if every one of them literally does the exact same thing identically? Generic is NOT good. Special and unique is. Right now there is no point in picking helbore over lasgun other then the decision if …

[image] Orome: Highly disagree. Whats the point of there being 3 different weapons (helbore, lasgun, headhunter) if every one of them literally does the exact same thing identically? To my eyes at least, they don’t do the same thing. The infantry lasgun is still more responsive and ammo effic…

You think this and I’m sure you believe this but I guarantee you right now that there is really only one existing build per class minus a couple points for keystone pathing. The amount of actual “builds” in the game is really low, because the pathing is so free and liberating that there is no variet…

[image] zircuits: The amount of actual “builds” in the game is really low, because the pathing is so free and liberating that there is no variety. I’m not sure I’m following here…if the pathing is free and liberating that fundamentally and inherently means you can take a wide array and variet…

The helbore has been ruined / lost its identity

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The helbore has been ruined / lost its identity

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