# The havoc quell “fix” breaks standard tapping and feels terrible

**URL:** <https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-havoc-quell-fix-breaks-standard-tapping-and-feels-terrible/126121>\
**Category:** Gameplay Feedback\
**Created:** [September 30, 2026, 7:46pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-havoc-quell-fix-breaks-standard-tapping-and-feels-terrible/126121 "2026-09-30T19:46:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Increto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/977dab/32.png) [@Increto](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Increto)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2026, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-havoc-quell-fix-breaks-standard-tapping-and-feels-terrible/126121/105 "2026-10-03T09:06:27Z")

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It quells nothing

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**Author:** ![Alyssa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c37758/32.png) [@Alyssa](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Alyssa)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2026, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-havoc-quell-fix-breaks-standard-tapping-and-feels-terrible/126121/106 "2026-10-03T14:51:26Z")

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the change is awful and is ruining my main class for me, it makes brain bursting bosses down maybe half as effective because instead of doing a quick quell to get 2% peril off i need to do it for over a second before being able to brain burst again, it also feels really bad because i have a high actions per minute playstyle, i beg you fatshark to revert this

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**Author:** ![brotherhood](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/brotherhood/32/73865_2.png) [@brotherhood](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/brotherhood)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2026, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-havoc-quell-fix-breaks-standard-tapping-and-feels-terrible/126121/107 "2026-10-03T15:15:35Z")

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if you play on PC, get the Guarantee Quell mod. It’s unfortunately the only way to retain some semblance of the prior tap-quelling mechanic, at least until FS reverts this madness.

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**Author:** ![Margeret-Dayhoff](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/margeret-dayhoff/32/92972_2.png) [@Margeret-Dayhoff](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Margeret-Dayhoff)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2026, 8:17am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-havoc-quell-fix-breaks-standard-tapping-and-feels-terrible/126121/108 "2026-10-04T08:17:17Z")

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I tried that mod and while it does provide some safety against holding quell too shortly, its’s drawbacks are the same as all the other “guarantee” mods that try to compensate for the games intrinsic latency and even worse tendency to drop/ignore inputs: you can often end up queing inputs that lock you into certain actions that became counterproductive.

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**Author:** ![brotherhood](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/brotherhood/32/73865_2.png) [@brotherhood](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/brotherhood)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2026, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-havoc-quell-fix-breaks-standard-tapping-and-feels-terrible/126121/109 "2026-10-04T12:46:21Z")

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Yea, it’s not a direct fix unfortunately. But I don’t know what else we can do. The disparity between quelling in normal vs Havoc is such bad game design now, it feels like the most rushed and untested nerf. The muscle memory loop that’s in my brain from hours of playtime is totally broken, making simply playing psyker in Havoc not fun at all. I also have a hard time buying that the prior interaction was a bug since it was around for 2.5 years now since Havoc started, but I probably missed reading something in the patch notes about this.

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**Author:** ![dragomusic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dragomusic/32/77374_2.png) [@dragomusic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/dragomusic)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2026, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-havoc-quell-fix-breaks-standard-tapping-and-feels-terrible/126121/110 "2026-10-04T17:50:30Z")

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Praying this change does not get reverted 🙏

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**Author:** ![brotherhood](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/brotherhood/32/73865_2.png) [@brotherhood](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/brotherhood)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2026, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-havoc-quell-fix-breaks-standard-tapping-and-feels-terrible/126121/111 "2026-10-04T18:30:56Z")

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Big E is a psyker-main, he is not listening xd

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**Author:** ![BongoSkaggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@BongoSkaggs](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/BongoSkaggs)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2026, 8:48pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-havoc-quell-fix-breaks-standard-tapping-and-feels-terrible/126121/112 "2026-10-04T20:48:13Z")

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> [@dragomusic](#):
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> Praying this change does not get reverted 🙏

It could get reverted and then applied to the rest of the game. That’d be nice.

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**Author:** ![Increto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/977dab/32.png) [@Increto](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Increto)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2026, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-havoc-quell-fix-breaks-standard-tapping-and-feels-terrible/126121/113 "2026-10-05T20:17:32Z")

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you aren’t allowed to enjoy playing psyker, all future nerfs should continue to ruin game mechanics

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**Author:** ![eatingsand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/aca169/32.png) [@eatingsand](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/eatingsand)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2026, 7:57am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-havoc-quell-fix-breaks-standard-tapping-and-feels-terrible/126121/115 "2026-10-15T07:57:59Z")

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> [@Latifa](#):
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> The points about muscle memory make sense while beginners (if that offends anyone, stay mad) can adapt easily, it’s a whole different story for us dinosaurs.

hilarious how hard this argument is getting milked when it would literally take you like 10 minutes ingame to get used to the new stuff

the way you people act like you can never learn a new timing or control scheme you would think you were born playing darktide psyker and never touched any other character, game, genre, or anything else requiring hand eye coordination. like those people who only ever eat cheeseburgers and so their body adapted and they vomit when they try eating a potato

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