# The Book of Grudges: Because Fatshark Won't Listen

**URL:** <https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 23, 2024, 6:31pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904 "2024-05-23T18:31:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![zaygr](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/zaygr/32/71131_2.png) [@zaygr](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/zaygr)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1425 "2025-08-26T01:04:24Z")

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Late because I was away for a bit, 3rd event since skulls without aquilas, yadda yadda yadda.

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**Author:** ![CobaltNinja](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cobaltninja/32/71678_2.png) [@CobaltNinja](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/CobaltNinja)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1426 "2025-08-26T12:03:54Z")

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The Grudge for throughput may need an update, because this past month or two has seriously been the new low (surprisingly) for it. We’ve had:

- A paid class that straight up partially didn’t work for at least a full month and change (my perception of time is foggy)
- Multiple confirmed and recorded CTD bugs after the frostfix that made the cops work again (and finally addressed the “buffs not appearing” issue that had been in the game for _several months_)
- Complete radio silence other than “yeah we have a fix ready :)” from the local riot control for literally a week when FS is supposedly “off vacation”
- Fixes for crashes that can very easily happen on accident (and FREQUENTLY) come out exactly one week later instead of ASAP
- Vermintide 2 gets a brand spankin’ new, stylish, and FUN event with **actual secrets** that a group of pubbies and I spent 2 hours getting nowhere on
  - Meanwhile some clown at FS HQ reads all the complaints about how knockback is absurd and unfun and decides to code an event that triples the knockback you receive and also adds more sources of knockback everywhere for a time-limited Darktide event

Seriously. What? This barely feels like incompetence anymore and more like _active malice._

(p.s. totally coining “frostfix” for “bugfix patch that should have come out way earlier than it actually did”)

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**Author:** ![GMG\_Pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@GMG\_Pie](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/GMG_Pie)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1427 "2025-08-26T12:19:47Z")

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I like how Vermintide 2 keeps getting random patches that address many issues with bots while Darktide still has them sucking down medicae charges.

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**Author:** ![Ragnarok101](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ragnarok101/32/78147_2.png) [@Ragnarok101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ragnarok101)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1428 "2025-08-26T12:20:53Z")

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VT2 clearly has actual developers. I think Darktide just gets Bobby the intern.

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**Author:** ![CobaltNinja](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cobaltninja/32/71678_2.png) [@CobaltNinja](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/CobaltNinja)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 12:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1429 "2025-08-26T12:21:13Z")

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TF2’s potted plant has a brother

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**Author:** ![Ragnarok101](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ragnarok101/32/78147_2.png) [@Ragnarok101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ragnarok101)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1430 "2025-08-26T12:28:08Z")

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I can’t tell if Fatshark is just internally an Office Space kind of situation where any given employee is so unmotivated they probably do about fifteen minutes of actual work, or if they’re just secretly siphoning all the dev time for their next game.

Also, hi character limit. Glad to see the stupendous mass of Grudges is growing to rip a hole thru Fatshark’s digital infrastructure.

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**Author:** ![CobaltNinja](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/cobaltninja/32/71678_2.png) [@CobaltNinja](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/CobaltNinja)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1431 "2025-08-26T12:54:50Z")

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> [@Ragnarok101](#):
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> Also, hi character limit

Again??? I thought we just raised it?

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**Author:** ![CH3DD4R\_G0B-L1N](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ch3dd4r_g0b-l1n/32/96421_2.png) [@CH3DD4R\_G0B-L1N](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 12:59pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1432 "2025-08-26T12:59:48Z")

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> [@CobaltNinja](#):
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> frostfix

🗒 🔥 🖊

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**Author:** ![Ragnarok101](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ragnarok101/32/78147_2.png) [@Ragnarok101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ragnarok101)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1433 "2025-08-26T13:01:22Z")

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Arbites.

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**Author:** ![FatsharkKitefin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/fatsharkkitefin/32/95415_2.png) [@FatsharkKitefin](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/FatsharkKitefin)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1435 "2025-08-26T13:27:17Z")

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Increased 🫡

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**Author:** ![Riku](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/riku/32/118330_2.png) [@Riku](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Riku)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1436 "2025-08-27T03:59:06Z")

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> [@FatsharkKitefin](#):
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> Increased 🫡

![](https://media1.tenor.com/m/TRh6tOWk2qIAAAAC/billy-and-mandy.gif "Billy And Mandy GIF - Billy And Mandy - Discover & Share GIFs")

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**Author:** ![Enclave](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/enclave/32/73043_2.png) [@Enclave](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Enclave)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2025, 6:12am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1438 "2025-08-27T06:12:25Z")

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Gotta communicate frostfix in a way fatshark’s social media team can understand

❄

⚙

👴

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**Author:** ![stqnislqs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@stqnislqs](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/stqnislqs)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2025, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1439 "2025-08-27T09:42:50Z")

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Yet players still want to give them money for skins instead of actual content.

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**Author:** ![CH3DD4R\_G0B-L1N](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ch3dd4r_g0b-l1n/32/96421_2.png) [@CH3DD4R\_G0B-L1N](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1440 "2025-08-27T13:56:29Z")

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It was supposed to be money for skins _for_ actual content. That’s the Faustian bargain new gamers have made, to the chagrin of old timers. Now they’re learning it was a monkey paw all along.

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**Author:** ![Ragnarok101](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ragnarok101/32/78147_2.png) [@Ragnarok101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ragnarok101)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1441 "2025-09-01T21:19:52Z")

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Moved comms to second-most-annoying issue after cosmetics. Also added a new thread.

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**Author:** ![psyk](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/psyk/32/96060_2.png) [@psyk](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/psyk)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2025, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1442 "2025-09-01T21:44:06Z")

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strawhat lost her life getting us emojis instead of silence 😭

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**Author:** ![Dice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/35a633/32.png) [@Dice](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dice)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1443 "2025-09-08T18:21:09Z")

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Honestly, I’d like to see a rework in the Commodore’s Vestures. 🤔

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**Author:** ![Ragnarok101](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ragnarok101/32/78147_2.png) [@Ragnarok101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ragnarok101)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2025, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1444 "2025-09-10T12:44:58Z")

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Everyone would, Fatshark refuses to discuss anything related to their funny money though.

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Adding these to the Comms section.

> [@News...? Please...?](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/news-please/112425):
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> Something? A little bit of news?

> [@Can we have our new vet weapons now?](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/can-we-have-our-new-vet-weapons-now/112331):
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> please?

> [@This is a serious problem](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/this-is-a-serious-problem/112402):
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> Shouldn’t September be the third major update as planned? Why haven’t we seen any news at all? Fat Shark, take a look at the current player retention rate!

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**Author:** ![Ragnarok101](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ragnarok101/32/78147_2.png) [@Ragnarok101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ragnarok101)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1445 "2025-09-12T14:49:02Z")

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Adding to comms:

Apparently this is something they consider meaningful communication after months of silence and repeated requests to know what is happening with game development.

> [@Barktide: The Pets of Fatshark](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/barktide-the-pets-of-fatshark/112426):
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> Hello Everyone! You’ve met Molly in our [Introducing: The Cyber-Mastiff - Dev Blog](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-the-cyber-mastiff-dev-blog/108442) so we thought it was time we introduced you to the rest of the pets of Fatshark! [DarktideHeader] Monty Name: Monty aka Monster or Egg Age: 3 Monty’s Owner is Kitefin! Bio: Monty is a little mixture of several breeds (4, and I bet you can’t guess them all!), he is somehow super energetic and also the laziest dog I have ever met. He’d happily spend all day in bed if he co…

It’s cute, but it’s not acceptable as the first thing you drop when people are desperate to know what you’re actually developing.

 ![a5wazc](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/1/d/1d97ff2e9b0e74c2a1f1f3284ee6ead761b6786a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![CH3DD4R\_G0B-L1N](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ch3dd4r_g0b-l1n/32/96421_2.png) [@CH3DD4R\_G0B-L1N](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2025, 2:58pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-book-of-grudges-because-fatshark-wont-listen/94904/1446 "2025-09-12T14:58:26Z")

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I just got a new dog myself. I understand the joy and cute overload.

I’m not sending pics of her as a reply to customers waiting on my task completions for work.

Tone: 🧏

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