# Something feels really... off **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Feedback\ **Created:** [December 1, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/something-feels-really-off/63473 "2022-12-01T03:28:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tzcheese](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tzcheese/32/53773_2.png) [@Tzcheese](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Tzcheese)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/something-feels-really-off/63473/1 "2022-12-01T03:28:06Z")
I haven’t yet identified exactly what it is, but something about the way the game handles feels very different to pre-launch. And not in a good way. Any other beta players feeling this, or am I imagining it? ---
**Author:** ![Tunote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a4c791/32.png) [@Tunote](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Tunote)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 5:44am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/something-feels-really-off/63473/2 "2022-12-01T05:44:05Z")
I haven’t noticed anything personally, though some people have reported some input issues since launch. What I’ve heard so far has been pretty extreme–apparently some people have been experiencing an issue with mouse input randomly disabling for a second or two–but I wouldn’t be surprised if some smaller problems were created by the update as well. ---
**Author:** ![Agrojagg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b782af/32.png) [@Agrojagg](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Agrojagg)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/something-feels-really-off/63473/3 "2022-12-01T06:00:32Z")
Yeah it’s the changes to dodge and toughness. ---
**Author:** ![Tzcheese](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tzcheese/32/53773_2.png) [@Tzcheese](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Tzcheese)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/something-feels-really-off/63473/4 "2022-12-01T07:14:49Z")
The toughness was definitely part of it. I think the other part was that the update reset my graphics and I hadn’t changed my FoV back. So I was probably imagining it. ---
**Author:** ![Taranok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@Taranok](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Taranok)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 9:13am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/something-feels-really-off/63473/5 "2022-12-01T09:13:13Z")
Be careful with toughness. If you have more than 100 toughness (yes, including ranger veteran), it’s completely broken and you take bleedthrough. ---
**Author:** ![TASADAR101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@TASADAR101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/TASADAR101)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 9:20am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/something-feels-really-off/63473/6 "2022-12-01T09:20:31Z")
The toughness does feel really off and I’ve noticed getting hit at 100% by a poxwalker suddenly hurts a lot more. ---
**Author:** ![ChaosMarine](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/chaosmarine/32/35075_2.png) [@ChaosMarine](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ChaosMarine)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/something-feels-really-off/63473/7 "2022-12-01T09:55:27Z")
I’ve noticed a dramatic drop in performance. I’d get the odd FPS drop but typically it would hover at about 50-60 FPS throughout. Now I’m lucky to see 50 FPS. It honestly feels like they’ve reverted to an older build than the latest beta build they had. ---
**Author:** ![Tzcheese](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tzcheese/32/53773_2.png) [@Tzcheese](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Tzcheese)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 10:41am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/something-feels-really-off/63473/8 "2022-12-01T10:41:26Z")
Yeah, that too. I’m getting mad frame drops on _lower_ graphics settings than I used in the beta. Hopefully they figure out what’s causing these issues quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Jon](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/jon/32/37655_2.png) [@Jon](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Jon)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/something-feels-really-off/63473/9 "2022-12-01T11:03:54Z")
They messed up toughness because they wanted to implement chip damage. If you have toughness curios taking you above 100 toughness you will now take more damage when being hit. ---
**Author:** ![TASADAR101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@TASADAR101](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/TASADAR101)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/something-feels-really-off/63473/10 "2022-12-01T11:05:38Z")
Don’t worry, I’ve noticed that part but it also happens on ogryn skulbreaker without toughness relics. It’s pure murder to play him right now. ---
**Author:** ![Sulphuric\_Glue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c2a13f/32.png) [@Sulphuric\_Glue](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Sulphuric_Glue)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2022, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/something-feels-really-off/63473/11 "2022-12-01T12:14:01Z")
I can’t put my finger on exactly why, but everything about melee feels so sluggish. The game just keeps getting more clunky and more awkward in this regard.