Some input wanted

So, as someone getting “back into” the game a bit (read: i have some time again) I’ve been toying with the idea of actually doing some Havoc at some time in the near future, but since short of a burst of leveling and testing when scum and arbites came out i am sorely lacking consistent playtime from last year, and as such i am rusty as hell.

To fix this somewhat, i have been running my vet a bit with the solo mod and doing coward soloing (aka, trying to keep the bots alive) at auric running the build i slapped together below, and this is where the actual question comes in.

With plasma/dclaw, i can finish just fine. I can do it with rampage scum, i can do it with arbites, and i can obviously do it with dagger or DS vet but i still kinda despise the crutch element there (while fully accepting that i probably have to run it once/if i decide to pug havoc)

I’m currently banging my head against the wall trying to make shotgun/Dclaw work though, and outside of two runs (that feel quite lucky in context) i keep going down, but it feels a bit more like a build/skill issue, mainly the latter.

I used to entertain myself running Mk4 Caxe/Headhunter when soloing on damnation a year ago, and that’s all this is, not asking for functional build advice for havoc, that’s a separate animal and i have plenty of videos to use for reference there.

So while skill issue is the obvious answer to my dilemma, any feedback or suggestions on how to tweak the build for better survivability while not going just stealth/zoom or just what you all run for a WS vet setup without stealth for solo amusement using these two weapons?

Can point out that i have two Dclaws I’m currently swapping between, one with mobility and one with cleave targets as dump, currently using the cleave target dump version, and the slug shotgun seems to work best for me atm. (edit: and since i forgot to define it in the build, i have two shotguns as well, mobility and stability, currently using stability dump)

Suggestions/own experiences welcome, and current build;

Edit 2: Crap. I just checked and i have rending, not competitive urge with these two weapons. Apologies.

Well I wouldn’t go with these two weapons as a pairing, no AP solution besides your Krak… unless that’s the slug shotgun then a lil something. Typically you have the range or melee with an Armor solution. If you really want to use these two weapons…

Maybe drop exhilarating takedown and invigorated for the two other grenade talents. I prefer rending strikes over competitive urge… idk that’s a hard 2 weapons to make work…

Shotguns are just aren’t very good.. devil’s claw is great horde clear and parry but will struggle on the armor so need say a bolter, really any rapid fire weapon with your onslaught talent(but i don’t think shotgun pellets count) or reliance on kraks. I have a fun Arbites build with Tact Axe / Spread Shotgun pairing with a chain axe would be better but not an Arbites option.

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