# Same Havoc maps over and over?

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**Category:** Gameplay Feedback\
**Created:** [December 21, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595 "2024-12-21T17:28:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Margeret-Dayhoff](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/margeret-dayhoff/32/92972_2.png) [@Margeret-Dayhoff](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Margeret-Dayhoff)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/1 "2024-12-21T17:28:59Z")

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Why is it the same 7 maps all the time?  
Mercantile  
Warren 6-19  
Refinery Delta-17  
Dark Communion  
Vigil Station  
Smelter Complex  
Clandestium  
Archivum Sycorax

I miss all the others. What’s worse is none of those are among my favorites.

I particularly miss these:  
Consignment Yard

 ![Consignment Yard](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/a/8/a83b49fef9c56212c2c9dc843c0e69d3975caa85.png)

Power Matrix

 ![Power Matrix](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/d/1/d14d624babda234123b0d9a63770a06a2c358a89.png)

Silo Cluster

 ![Silo Cluster](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/0/0/00493b002a6200525d5922f634b545a2bda6e083.png)

Chasm Station

 ![Chasm Station](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/6/b/6bd8f761a41547f750536224f82f3efdf62b2804.png)

Magistrati Oubliette

 ![Magistrati Oubliette](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/a/b/ab30fb454f8581b3f8c12ca192a267364562f990.png)

I was bored.

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**Author:** ![Ryshek](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ryshek/32/92339_2.png) [@Ryshek](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ryshek)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/2 "2024-12-21T18:11:21Z")

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My group was just discussing that. I wish that they would have thrown in the assassination missions /=

Edit: maybe they have, but in all of our games, we’ve never run into them.

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**Author:** ![tinybike](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tinybike/32/90124_2.png) [@tinybike](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/tinybike)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/3 "2024-12-21T19:16:07Z")

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Someone misses Silo Cluster?? :o

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**Author:** ![Reginald](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/reginald/32/63707_2.png) [@Reginald](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Reginald)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/4 "2024-12-21T19:26:50Z")

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I love silo cluster.  
Whats weird is Chasm Terminus was in the pre-release early access build i played for H40. I mean its literally in a video Jsat published. Where did it go?

I can only hope we get more H40 maps after FS’s vacation.

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**Author:** ![Margeret-Dayhoff](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/margeret-dayhoff/32/92972_2.png) [@Margeret-Dayhoff](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Margeret-Dayhoff)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/5 "2024-12-21T19:31:11Z")

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> [@tinybike](#):
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> Someone misses Silo Cluster??

Who doesn’t love the beginning where you come down the stairs and is instantly assaulted by multiple bosses while fighting a literal wall of gunners, snipers, shooters, and horde all at the same time?

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**Author:** ![Amelia](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/amelia/32/35846_2.png) [@Amelia](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Amelia)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/6 "2024-12-21T19:45:39Z")

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having all maps on havoc would be great.  
also vault map still missing even in the normal board?

i wish that the maps had some different lighting/assets when in havoc mode, to give at least a sense of variation. just like vt2 weaves did with the amazing change lighting effects and various assets added.

for example the red lighting on orthus offensive in some sections was great.

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**Author:** ![dragomusic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dragomusic/32/77374_2.png) [@dragomusic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/dragomusic)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/7 "2024-12-21T19:57:00Z")

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Also Excise Vault still isn’t in the normal mission board after they removed it…

It sucks because it was one of the best maps (for difficulty) in the game, without being as insane as logi is. Hopefully its brought back asap after the winter break.

😕

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**Author:** ![tinybike](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tinybike/32/90124_2.png) [@tinybike](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/tinybike)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/8 "2024-12-21T20:36:47Z")

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I do like that the insanity is front-loaded. If you’re gonna wipe it usually happens quickly. Compare to the “reverse” of Silo, Vigil Station, where the obnoxious stuff around the elevator is near the end, so when you wipe, it’s after wasting a good 20 minutes getting there.

Gloriana is nice for this too. That catwalk section would be 1000x more annoying if it was at the end of the mission.

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**Author:** ![tinybike](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tinybike/32/90124_2.png) [@tinybike](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/tinybike)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 8:39pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/9 "2024-12-21T20:39:39Z")

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> [@dragomusic](#):
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> Also Excise Vault still isn’t in the normal mission board after they removed it…
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> It sucks because it was one of the best maps (for difficulty) in the game,

I really like Excise Vault. Imo it’s the most interesting of the 3 sand maps – the series of big open-ish rooms you pass thru after the mid event are reliably interesting. It’s visually interesting too – the servitor colony area is super cool. It also doesn’t have the notoriously buggy vertical shanty town stuff that the other two sand maps have.

It’s also maybe the longest map in the game. Think almost every mission I’ve done on there takes 45+ minutes.

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**Author:** ![DornIvanotic](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dornivanotic/32/84585_2.png) [@DornIvanotic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DornIvanotic)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 8:05am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/10 "2024-12-22T08:05:01Z")

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consignment yard is a joke map, with two non functional events lmao

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**Author:** ![Enforest](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/enforest/32/73699_2.png) [@Enforest](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Enforest)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/11 "2024-12-22T10:33:01Z")

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> [@tinybike](#):
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> Someone misses Silo Cluster?? :o

Final objective is the bane of PuGs

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**Author:** ![Mayson](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/mayson/32/84187_2.png) [@Mayson](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Mayson)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/12 "2024-12-22T11:37:13Z")

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> [@Margeret-Dayhoff](#):
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> > [@tinybike](#):
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> > Someone misses Silo Cluster??
> 
> Who doesn’t love the beginning where you come down the stairs and is instantly assaulted by multiple bosses while fighting a literal wall of gunners, snipers, shooters, and horde all at the same time?

It’s the most hilarious thing, the staircase of doom. They could technically make a whole level around this concept of a short but strong assault and call it Blitzkrieg mission.

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**Author:** ![Antilus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/antilus/32/44699_2.png) [@Antilus](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Antilus)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/13 "2024-12-22T15:19:08Z")

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imagine missing silo cluster lol

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**Author:** ![tinybike](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tinybike/32/90124_2.png) [@tinybike](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/tinybike)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/14 "2024-12-22T18:45:34Z")

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> [@Reginald](#):
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> Whats weird is Chasm Terminus was in the pre-release early access build i played for H40

Maybe they thought the final fight needed to be punched up for havocs? I guess it’s a little anticlimactic to finally reach the traitor captain when you’ve already fought a bunch of random traitor captains en route

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**Author:** ![Index](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/index/32/95844_2.png) [@Index](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Index)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/15 "2024-12-22T18:58:54Z")

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> [@tinybike](#):
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> I really like Excise Vault

likewise, but as havoc is right now with randoms, imagine the “usuals” keeping coherence at delivering the batteries, much less seeking the correct silos and not go the headless chicken flight 😅

now imagine that under havoc 40 conditions.

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/3/d/3d325db740d9e230e8e9159f41c01c80e69eb997.png)

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**Author:** ![Harridas](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/harridas/32/25941_2.png) [@Harridas](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Harridas)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/16 "2024-12-22T19:14:48Z")

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I kept getting Vigil station oblivium like 10 times and I now hate it, awesome system 😃

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**Author:** ![Index](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/index/32/95844_2.png) [@Index](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Index)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/17 "2024-12-22T19:21:17Z")

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see, it makes you appreciate other maps you might have disliked as well more and concentrate it on one 😂 x more “good” ones all of a sudden

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**Author:** ![tinybike](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tinybike/32/90124_2.png) [@tinybike](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/tinybike)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/18 "2024-12-22T19:28:16Z")

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To be fair, vigil station is very hateable even the first time you get it!

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**Author:** ![Margeret-Dayhoff](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/margeret-dayhoff/32/92972_2.png) [@Margeret-Dayhoff](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Margeret-Dayhoff)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/19 "2024-12-22T20:35:18Z")

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> [@Antilus](#):
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> imagine missing silo cluster

Some forms of suffering are a pleasure!

 ![B6WcJ_rIMAAyFYE](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/3/8/38d7aa1b5c2fe192520ae02feb07016d303e7b8c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Antilus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/antilus/32/44699_2.png) [@Antilus](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Antilus)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/same-havoc-maps-over-and-over/103595/20 "2024-12-22T23:15:53Z")

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but yes, silo cluster is missing from the ‘‘end game’’ thingy and it should be in it head first

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