# Requiring private games for penances is kinda stupid

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**Category:** Gameplay Feedback\
**Created:** [August 9, 2024, 4:41am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724 "2024-08-09T04:41:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ralendil](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ralendil/32/108313_2.png) [@Ralendil](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ralendil)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/21 "2024-08-09T12:19:36Z")

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> [@Hextechnician](#):
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> I feel like this was 100% a big reason they made them private so quickly, at the time, solo mode was on the priority list. Now it isn’t and here the penances continue to languish

I don’t think. Solo had dropped to “not their priority” a long time before this move.  
In fact, I think it is the contrary. This is cause they decided that there won’t be solo implemented that they made them private.

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**Author:** ![alsozara](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/alsozara/32/6944_2.png) [@alsozara](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/alsozara)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/22 "2024-08-09T12:24:46Z")

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> [@MadMartigan](#):
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> And I’m not really interested in your ‘I’m alright jack so screw everyone else’ role here. You have the penances so you’re just annoyed that it might be less bothersome to others if the rules are reverted

I don’t have them and I also don’t want them reverted. They were put on private in the first place because enough people complained about them ruining public games. By all means I hope FS redesigns them into stuff that griefs less then takes them off private but if they’re staying as they are, yeah private is better overall.

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**Author:** ![MadMartigan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/madmartigan/32/85568_2.png) [@MadMartigan](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MadMartigan)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/23 "2024-08-09T14:12:45Z")

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They should put the auric survivor and loner penances as private games then, along with loads of others 🤷‍♂️

Let’s face it, there’s heaps of penances that can harm the player experience since hestia, so I don’t see the harm in these reverting.

That said, a better solution would be to move that really cool psycher outfit (literally the coolest one), along with any other cosmetics to different public penances and simply give points to private penances.

Not missing out on nice cosmetics would likely make many of us much less salty about this stupid scenario.

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**Author:** ![kqgee](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/kqgee/32/28555_2.png) [@kqgee](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/kqgee)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/24 "2024-08-09T19:25:16Z")

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Players obsession over penances cant really be falted to FS, but the specific ones that encourage bad-play, IE solo-ing, beating the map in 20 mins can be. I dont mind the group play penances, if its annoying I just never complete it.

> [@Lexxxielove](#):
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> that i no longer have the means to complete these penances.

You do, you’re just being as stubborn as a Dwarf, which isnt a bad thing.

> [@Ralendil](#):
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> I don’t want to deal with that. Private penance means a penance I will never do, then it means the penance system is useless for me.

100% agree. Penance rewards are nothing burgers. I will say I have tried new builds to complete some, so the penance system does have value to me.

If penance rewards had aquilas or 80% gear buffs then I can see this being an issue. But they dont, so its whatever.

> [@MadMartigan](#):
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> They should put the auric survivor and loner penances as private games then, along with loads of others 🤷‍♂️

Abusable “title” makes me giggle. Those are players that need to be carried the most. , but they will just alt-f4 before we get a chance to save em anyways.

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**Author:** ![Vaeneas](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/vaeneas/32/99608_2.png) [@Vaeneas](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Vaeneas)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/25 "2024-08-09T20:09:20Z")

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> [@MadMartigan](#):
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> They should put the auric survivor and loner penances as private games then, along with loads of others 🤷‍♂️

I do not think you will find a lot of players that will argue against putting survivor titles into private only lobbies.

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**Author:** ![MadMartigan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/madmartigan/32/85568_2.png) [@MadMartigan](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MadMartigan)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/26 "2024-08-09T20:52:23Z")

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> [@kqgee](#):
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> Penance rewards are nothing burgers

Some nice cosmetics are tied to the private only penances. If it was just points at stake then I’d care less but missing out on nice cosmetics (the best free psycher outfit imo… Black and gold!) isn’t cool.

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**Author:** ![MadMartigan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/madmartigan/32/85568_2.png) [@MadMartigan](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MadMartigan)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 8:53pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/27 "2024-08-09T20:53:57Z")

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Making a penance private only is lazy design. They should just think of a better way to change the penance itself.

I don’t think any penances should be private only unless there is a solo mode.

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**Author:** ![kqgee](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/kqgee/32/28555_2.png) [@kqgee](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/kqgee)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/28 "2024-08-09T21:01:02Z")

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> [@MadMartigan](#):
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> They should just think of a better way to change the penance itself.

I do agree here. It is lazy and it just puts their thumb on the problem instead of finding a solution.

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**Author:** ![deusvult6](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/deusvult6/32/75366_2.png) [@deusvult6](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/deusvult6)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/29 "2024-08-09T23:27:43Z")

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FS actually did provide a means for social interaction in the game. Discord is certainly easier and a more likely method to find a group, but you can always just ask in the hub. I’ve seen it quit a bit and even helped a couple of times. Admittedly for the easier ones, like the psyker monster one.

I recall a bunch of people begging for carries through the Twins hard mode and, nah, I’m not that amazing.

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**Author:** ![Lexxxielove](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/lexxxielove/32/79342_2.png) [@Lexxxielove](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Lexxxielove)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/30 "2024-08-10T00:06:57Z")

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some social interaction isn’t the same as being able to just go into an LFG and join a game that wants to get the penance or something, all we have is a basic chat system that doesn’t even have a way to tell where you are in your words like you do on a website, people don’t wanna just backspace to edit, that takes too long.

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**Author:** ![Tzcheese](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tzcheese/32/53773_2.png) [@Tzcheese](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Tzcheese)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 9:47am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/31 "2024-08-10T09:47:33Z")

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Nah, OP is right. These penances should be deleted from the game, be de-privatised, or _at least_ removed from any and all of those penances which amount to “complete all these other penances”.

It really is a kick in the nuts to get locked out of multiple penances on multiple classes because you need one that you can’t possibly get outside of a premade group.

This game’s inbuilt social systems aren’t nearly good enough for that to be a thing, and no, discord isn’t an answer.

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**Author:** ![CorporalCain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@CorporalCain](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/CorporalCain)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:48pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/32 "2024-08-10T16:48:50Z")

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DITO I 100% agree with you.

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**Author:** ![hgjw](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/hgjw/32/70947_2.png) [@hgjw](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/hgjw)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 6:30pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/33 "2024-08-10T18:30:37Z")

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They just need to implement that stupid solo mode so everyone can get them at their leisure.  
Personally I’ve had enough of zealots and other people doing random stuff in random lobbies in an attempt to get some stupid penance that half the playerbase probably don’t even care about.

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**Author:** ![Lexxxielove](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/lexxxielove/32/79342_2.png) [@Lexxxielove](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Lexxxielove)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/34 "2024-08-11T00:10:00Z")

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that and they should change them so that they don’t have to grief other players for a penance that is required for master of war stuff and then and only then should they deprivate them because private penaces are stupid as all hell.

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**Author:** ![Lexxxielove](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/lexxxielove/32/79342_2.png) [@Lexxxielove](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Lexxxielove)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/35 "2024-08-11T00:11:00Z")

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short, simple, straight to the point. a perfect reply.

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**Author:** ![CorporalCain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@CorporalCain](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/CorporalCain)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/36 "2024-08-11T00:33:22Z")

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Thank yoo suh!

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**Author:** ![BatlordCarcas](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/batlordcarcas/32/78696_2.png) [@BatlordCarcas](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/BatlordCarcas)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/37 "2024-08-11T01:16:55Z")

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Theres LFG group for Darktide on Facebook and messenger for anyone interested for PC and Xbox too

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**Author:** ![BatlordCarcas](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/batlordcarcas/32/78696_2.png) [@BatlordCarcas](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/BatlordCarcas)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/38 "2024-08-11T01:20:17Z")

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To me it was initially annoying until I got to ask around on groups on social media on Facebook/Messenger groups, Discord (for those who do), and isnt there a vast community on Steam anyway for PC gamers?

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**Author:** ![anthov44192](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/958977/32.png) [@anthov44192](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/anthov44192)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/39 "2024-08-11T01:20:25Z")

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Agree 100%. I actually did the psyker one, only to realize I didn’t get the completion notification because its for private games only.

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**Author:** ![BatlordCarcas](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/batlordcarcas/32/78696_2.png) [@BatlordCarcas](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/BatlordCarcas)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 1:22am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/requiring-private-games-for-penances-is-kinda-stupid/97724/40 "2024-08-11T01:22:23Z")

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If anyone wants to contact me to help with these penances I am more than glad to join in and help, even invite some game group friends along we had unlocked alot of penances on private

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