[Poll] Has the perceived difficulty changed after the update?

[Drakonhammer]

@Vertraxxx

I’m not sure if it’s because every class was buffed, but Auric HISTG is now almost laughably easy. Players were mostly just steamrolling through the enemies as they advanced, with very few situations where we had to fall back and give ground.

I don’t feel like the rounds themselves are any easier or harder, but all the vanilla classes getting buffs definitely makes a difference-makes it feel easier.

Auric has been too easy for a while and I think it shows in how many players are on the difficulty without knowing gameplay basics/fundamentals. I’m not trying to be snooty, I mean people that don’t seem to know you can push bursters, dogs, etc.

@Agayek

VT2 is easier insofar as many of the core mechanics are the same, and the only enemy gun is a special with lots of warning and there’s never more than a couple active at a time.

Outside of that, Darktide characters are massively more overpowered, with far more tools to handle any given scenario, and generally far more survivability (seriously, every DT character just gets Ironbreaker’s gromril armor passive, except the cooldown is around 2-4 seconds depending on difficulty and class, right out of the gate; that alone massively increases DT character sustain vs VT2, let alone all the mobility and damage DT characters get that massively outclasses VT2’s heroes).

Darktide does spawn more enemies, and especially Specials, compared to VT2, but it also gives the team way more options to deal with all that, and as a direct result, core mechanical mastery can be much lower and still succeed in DT compared to VT2.

Agreed with all of this with the one caveat being I find revives are much easier to pull off in VT2, but that’s mostly due to the lack of gunners/reapers/trappers and how the enemies being almost all melee means block cost reduction just lets you tank revives.

In DT if they’re getting blasted going for the revive sloppily can lead to a chain down.

On the other hand the one nappy rat that successfully stabs you in the back playing ranged just chunks most your hp.

[Vertraxxx]

@Drakonhammer

I don’t feel like the rounds themselves are any easier or harder, but all the vanilla classes getting buffs definitely makes a difference-makes it feel easier.

Auric has been too easy for a while and I think it shows in how many players are on the difficulty without knowing gameplay basics/fundamentals. I’m not trying to be snooty, I mean people that don’t seem to know you can push bursters, dogs, etc.

This is just speculation, but seeing how they buffed pretty much everything in this update and accelerated the power creep, I’m starting to think that Fatshark no longer sees Auric as a difficulty for experienced players, but rather as the next step for players who have just reached level 30 for the first time.

In other words, they may be trying to make Auric more like Heresy or Damnation back in the days before Havoc existed, where players could jump in without knowing much about weapon combos, enemy mechanics, maps, or the game in general, while pushing everyone above that skill level toward Havoc.

Basically, I’m starting to think they’re balancing the game around Havoc now.

[Tavdogg11]

@MunKy

Dont reply to me, I wont see it.

Bit of an overreaction to a discussion but okay sure.

[bpzgs]

Whether people wanna admit it or not, aruic has basically been this game’s easy mode for a long time now.

[Tavdogg11]

Auric is easy?! Yeah… suuuurrrreee…

[Harridas]

It’s been made significantly easier over time

[DornIvanotic]

@Downer

VT 2 heroes take damage straight into health.

thp generation rates are comparable to having shout every 10 seconds

[EggFever]

A player’s individual skill has literally nothing to do with the difficulty of the game, of course bad players are going to go down on auric

[Effigy]

@Vertraxxx

Basically, I’m starting to think they’re balancing the game around Havoc now.

I really hope not.

[Palumtra]

Aside from killing frame gen no

[Index]

@EggFever

A player’s individual skill has literally nothing to do with the difficulty of the game

?? how so… ??

a difficulty setting is meant to provide a barrier for a person’s abilities to get past.

the more skilled a player is, the easier to bypass that barrier.

difficulty settings are finite, the ability to improve for especially gifted individuals most likely eclipses them at one point in time or another by a huge margin.

see doom ultra nightmare speedruns, darksouls on bongo drums, heck even tetris got “finished” some 30 odd years after its release.

so if you dont implement a scaling factor that adapts to the very player, static difficulty settings over time become null and void, aka havoc 40 true solo run.

ok, there’s havoc 40 true solo with grey weapons, no talents and “blind&deaf” mod, maybe one day someone will pull off that world wonder

[EggFever]

what i mean is just because there are bad players dying in auric doesnt mean the game isnt easier than it used to be

[Index]

with all the parachutes and learning wheels we got so far its a wonder people still topple over despite the weird they do when caught clearly miles out of their league

i’m actually surprised we have no “talent” for a.i taking over controls when at risk of losing your health completely
“emperors divine intervention”
100% immunity to damage
autopilot to the next safe spot
1sec cooldown

damn i shouldn’t really give them any ideas

[WhereIsBaoDur]

every time you can slot one more desired talent into your build you become incrementally stronger, but this step by step change is preferable in my opinion to having busted mechanics (like golden toughness) or weapon outliers, so overall the game is in a better place than pre-patch if you ask me