# Please buff non ganger classes to Hive Scum level **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 18, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819 "2025-11-18T19:19:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hammer\_hold](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/hammer_hold/32/103503_2.png) [@Hammer\_hold](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Hammer_hold)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/42 "2025-11-20T11:00:05Z")
> [@Harridas](#): > > No Fatshark should buff the entirety of Darktide so that all builds are viable on Havoc 40 so we can finally have a balanced fine tuned experience Horrid take. DarkTide should be balanced around base difficulties (Uprising - Auric) and not the sweaty hardcore mode for the best of the best, craving a challenge. Make all weapons be able to deal with Crushers (either buff their dmg to Carapace or rework the Crusher enemy), reduce the enemy spam and all weapons will be viable in base difficulties. Then and only then, should the devs approach Havoc. Until then, they should stay far away from this Emperor’s forsaken gamemode as everybody does currently. ---
**Author:** ![Gideon404](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/gideon404/32/96699_2.png) [@Gideon404](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Gideon404)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:24am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/43 "2025-11-20T11:24:26Z")
[![](https://media.tenor.com/1fAox12x5HoAAAAM/whoosh-woosh.gif) ](https://media.tenor.com/1fAox12x5HoAAAAM/whoosh-woosh.gif) It happens to me too. ---
**Author:** ![Hammer\_hold](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/hammer_hold/32/103503_2.png) [@Hammer\_hold](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Hammer_hold)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/44 "2025-11-20T15:23:25Z")
I saw people on the FatShark Forums typing in the exact same manner, but they weren’t joking. Both about the buffs and the “balance the game around Havoc” nonsense. But still, I guess I got LeFunny Trolled so I’m going to go cry myself to sleep now. ---
**Author:** ![Martak7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/848f3c/32.png) [@Martak7](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Martak7)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/45 "2025-11-21T06:58:26Z")
No buffs, if talent trees are reset again I will just uninstall the game. Sick of it. ---
**Author:** ![alsozara](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/alsozara/32/6944_2.png) [@alsozara](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/alsozara)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/46 "2025-11-21T07:51:56Z")
> [@Awuga](#): > > Everyone who actually plays havoc knows this Edit: after checking your post history I think I misread and you’re in on the joke so got rid of my response here. My bad sorry to be a buzz kill guys. ---
**Author:** ![Mitradraug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@Mitradraug](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Mitradraug)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 8:16am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/47 "2025-11-21T08:16:57Z")
Remove melee weapons, buff ranged ones. Darktide should be about sliding and shooting guns rather than awkwardly hitting big enemies with a shiv. Want a melee game? - Play Vermintide. ---
**Author:** ![anon63448941](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@anon63448941](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/anon63448941)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 8:56am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/48 "2025-11-21T08:56:54Z")
> [@Awuga](#): > > The only possible solution is to give gold toughness to ALL psyker’s combat abilities, not just scrier’s gaze like EggFever rightly suggests. Also make empathic evasion 3 seconds. Why stop there? Just end the mission on any Psyker Combat Ability usage, automatic 6m damage awarded. Other classes can’t compete? Skill issue ![Screenshot_20251121_015347_Reddit](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/e/0/e0c60b4c55f6916868381ffc77f4eee7334a289d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![JanZamoysky](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/janzamoysky/32/87926_2.png) [@JanZamoysky](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/JanZamoysky)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/49 "2025-11-22T15:07:40Z")
> [@anon63448941](#): > > Why stop there? Just end the mission on any Psyker Combat Ability usage, automatic 6m damage awarded. Other classes can’t compete? Skill issue Actually after the last patch I have discovered I can make beer manifest on my desk without going downstairs to the kitchen. How neat is that? No, beloved, I said “chilled”. ---
**Author:** ![Dice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/35a633/32.png) [@Dice](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dice)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/50 "2025-11-22T16:19:02Z")
Honestly I’d like Veteran talents tree gets less grey nodes for more improvement, deal with 19 of them prior to Bound by Duty update was awful compared to other characters. ---
**Author:** ![anon63448941](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@anon63448941](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/anon63448941)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2025, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/51 "2025-11-22T16:21:05Z")
Forget Purgatus, this right here is indeed Psyker superiority confirmed 🍻 ---
**Author:** ![fbolduc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e36b37/32.png) [@fbolduc](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/fbolduc)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/52 "2025-11-26T02:08:25Z")
> [@EggFever](#): > > Invocation of death - Returned to the old version that applied CDR for each enemy hit We had so much fun. 😮‍💨 ---
**Author:** ![Dice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/35a633/32.png) [@Dice](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dice)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 7:12pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/53 "2025-11-28T19:12:47Z")
So apparently Hive Scum got very strong skills. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![EggFever](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/eggfever/32/88286_2.png) [@EggFever](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/EggFever)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/54 "2025-11-28T19:14:58Z")
> [@Dice](#): > > Hive Scum got very strong i dont think my post was asking for enough tbh ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/3/1/319a2f41b73f03a4d9360defbe43058888a33c8c.png) [@system](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/55 "2025-12-12T19:15:26Z")
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