# Please buff non ganger classes to Hive Scum level **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 18, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819 "2025-11-18T19:19:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Fuplaayz](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/fuplaayz/32/11157_2.png) [@Fuplaayz](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Fuplaayz)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 4:16am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/22 "2025-11-19T04:16:07Z")
I don’t know if you’re being ironic or not 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Khorne\_Dawg](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/khorne_dawg/32/111464_2.png) [@Khorne\_Dawg](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Khorne_Dawg)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/23 "2025-11-19T04:19:29Z")
Hive Scum when Rolling Steel: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/jTWSol8GwpI/maxresdefault.jpg "get me off the train") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWSol8GwpI) ---
**Author:** ![Awuga](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/awuga/32/98518_2.png) [@Awuga](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Awuga)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/24 "2025-11-19T04:19:48Z")
that just shows how little you know about havoc. anyone who’s played knows that pysker is unusable dogshit on havoc, you LITERALLY die instantly from full health to fully dead state if one (1) thing touches you. The only possible solution is to give gold toughness to ALL psyker’s combat abilities, not just scrier’s gaze like EggFever rightly suggests. Also make empathic evasion 3 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![Antilus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/antilus/32/44699_2.png) [@Antilus](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Antilus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 4:34am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/25 "2025-11-19T04:34:30Z")
> [@Awuga](#): > > that just shows how little you know about havoc. anyone who’s played knows that pysker is unusable dogshit on havoc, you LITERALLY die instantly from full health to fully dead state if one (1) thing touches you. right, but on the high end the deal is to get the psyker anyways, and tailor a team that can support him he will still die eventually, but he will be pumping 2-3 million damage in return also many havoc fortyers are heavy reliant on bubble, and the only class that has that is psyker they will outright refuse to play in a team with no psyker ---
**Author:** ![Fuplaayz](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/fuplaayz/32/11157_2.png) [@Fuplaayz](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Fuplaayz)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 4:46am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/26 "2025-11-19T04:46:44Z")
Yeah sorry I’m new! 🤩 ---
**Author:** ![eatingsand](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/aca169/32.png) [@eatingsand](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/eatingsand)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 5:24am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/27 "2025-11-19T05:24:56Z")
I think we should all keep a level head here, I propose we change Ogryns Delight in Destruction from 8%, stacking 4 times to 6% stacking 5 times ---
**Author:** ![alsozara](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/alsozara/32/6944_2.png) [@alsozara](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/alsozara)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 6:36am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/28 "2025-11-19T06:36:28Z")
> [@Awuga](#): > > that just shows how little you know about havoc. ![images (1) (4)](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/e/9/e916777e0691d6f62955fd981fdf08c044cb771a.jpeg) > [@Fuplaayz](#): > > Yeah sorry I’m new! 🤩 Funniest interaction I’ve read in a while. Cheers Fu ---
**Author:** ![Pirx](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/pirx/32/96156_2.png) [@Pirx](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Pirx)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 7:46am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/29 "2025-11-19T07:46:45Z")
Can we have a God–Emperor class please? ---
**Author:** ![JanZamoysky](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/janzamoysky/32/87926_2.png) [@JanZamoysky](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/JanZamoysky)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 10:11am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/30 "2025-11-19T10:11:01Z")
The only class able to play the new Solo mode /sarcasm. ---
**Author:** ![ramrod\_ikarus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9de0a6/32.png) [@ramrod\_ikarus](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ramrod_ikarus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/31 "2025-11-19T10:18:50Z")
Hehe that was funny ---
**Author:** ![AccountMadeToReply](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/82dd89/32.png) [@AccountMadeToReply](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/AccountMadeToReply)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/32 "2025-11-19T13:30:50Z")
6% stacking 5 times is way too weak, how about they make it 5% stacking 6 times? that seems way more fair to me honestly. or maybe they should make it 1% stacking 30 times ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/1/5/1591e4bba36d4bc9586601bff550907e5bf1f081.png) ---
**Author:** ![Downer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Downer](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Downer)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/33 "2025-11-19T13:32:49Z")
> [@Awuga](#): > > that pysker is unusable dogshit on havoc, Troll. ---
**Author:** ![Hammer\_hold](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/hammer_hold/32/103503_2.png) [@Hammer\_hold](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Hammer_hold)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 2:48pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/34 "2025-11-19T14:48:17Z")
> [@Awuga](#): > > pysker is unusable dogshit Skill issue. Also, the game’s balance should be centered around Auric, not Havoc. ---
**Author:** ![Gabriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@Gabriel](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Gabriel)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/35 "2025-11-19T16:24:37Z")
You think this is a shtpost but there clearly are people actually wanting this. Be careful what you feed fatshark. The monkey paw is always ready to curl. There is SO much more powercreep that can be added. But I’m sure youtubers talking about 2-3% adjustments will fix the game one day. ---
**Author:** ![Antilus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/antilus/32/44699_2.png) [@Antilus](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Antilus)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/36 "2025-11-19T16:47:34Z")
> [@Hammer\_hold](#): > > Also, the game’s balance should be centered around Auric, not Havoc. i mean it should be Malice, but ye, Auric would be already an improvement ---
**Author:** ![temp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@temp](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/temp)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/37 "2025-11-19T21:00:55Z")
> [@Awuga](#): > > pysker is unusable dogshit on havoc, you LITERALLY die instantly from full health to fully dead state if one (1) thing touches you Damn. I thought the Psyker was the most powerful class, dealing some multi-million damage and saving the whole team from instant defeat with those bubble-shields. So what, am I leveling a Psyker for nothing now? ---
**Author:** ![Awuga](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/awuga/32/98518_2.png) [@Awuga](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Awuga)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/38 "2025-11-20T05:02:01Z")
That’s what they want you to think, but it’s only true in auric and below. Good luck joining even a SINGLE havoc lobby in the party finder as psyker. No one will accept you. It’s just not possible. Everyone who actually plays havoc knows this. That’s why psyker needs all the buffs listed in this post and more in order to be havoc viable. ---
**Author:** ![Harridas](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/harridas/32/25941_2.png) [@Harridas](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Harridas)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 5:34am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/39 "2025-11-20T05:34:24Z")
Arbitrator needs gold toughness to survive he’s so weak otherwise these suggestions are woefully undertuned smh my head ---
**Author:** ![Harridas](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/harridas/32/25941_2.png) [@Harridas](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Harridas)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 5:37am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/40 "2025-11-20T05:37:02Z")
No Fatshark should buff the entirety of Darktide so that all builds are viable on Havoc 40 so we can finally have a balanced fine tuned experience ---
**Author:** ![Downer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ce7236/32.png) [@Downer](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Downer)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 9:16am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819/41 "2025-11-20T09:16:56Z")
> [@Awuga](#): > > Everyone who actually plays havoc knows this. You clearly don’t. [Previous page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/please-buff-non-ganger-classes-to-hive-scum-level/114819.md?page=3)