Playing “Ethically”?

Oh grut me I didn’t even think of that.

yes this was very humbling
wait my bad this is a ss of my last havoc stream
this was just an average stream for me XD

i genuinely dont feel like the mods do much. other than a few input errors from guarantee X, i dont think mods would have impacted my outcomes. i love my members but i lose a fugton with them, im the best player usually unless grim is there. I’ll join some randoms tn and run just scoreboard to get better data, but my suspicion is my mods arent gonna affect my performance very much

Aww man, just when I thought your testes had dropped you go and pull out the copium glass pipe; FFS.

Like FR, if I were a streamer, even one who doesn’t claim to be TopTenXXX league or whatever, I wouldn’t debase myself resorting to ESP mods and the like, especially if other “streamers” also use them. If anything you have an opportunity here to do the right thing and sack up, and maybe differentiate yourself from all the other weenies who live and die by their cheaty mods.

You and you ilk have done considerable harm to this game and others by normalizing cheats and giving yourselves and others a pass to be their worst selves. Next time you get dunked on by same lame-ass cheater in whatever game, whether it’s a cheat mod/exe or severe bug exploit, remember you had a hand in promoting and enabling that kind of behaviour. Crap like this wouldn’t have flown even 5 years ago on this scale.

But even giant PoS lamewads like Lance Armstrong or Michael Cohen can “mea culpa” and have their come-to-Emprah moment, man-up and come out against the distasteful shite they did.

If those arseholes can do it surely some of you can?

Or you can go on Discord and QQ with the other copium weenies and just keep doing what you’ve been doing.

Image of Prove me wrong, kids. Prove me wrong.

Are we talking about those exact cheats that let you win a grand total of one out of nine games? Indeed, the correct canonical experience intended by the developers has been ruined: guaranteed losses for everyone who tried!

I’m sorry did you want better cheats that guaranteed Havoc wins?

What point are you trying to make? It may have been loss in translation.

Aren’t the cheat criteria too strict? Out of nine games flagged as Auric, a victory was achieved in exactly one. Can you be sure that at least in this single game, the victory was achieved precisely due to the “cheat” mods of one of the four players, who, by his own admission, wasn’t even the strongest? Can you be sure that this lone winning game would also have been lost without those very cheat mods of a player who isn’t the strongest on the team? How do you measure the contribution of these cheat mods? And even if that were the case, does it mean that the correct gaming experience intended by the developers is total defeat? Suppose in some completely different game, a paid cheat was being sold with the comment: “With this, I won one out of nine games, finishing second out of four in terms of strength on the team.” A tempting offer, isn’t it?

I think you’re reading too much into some random scoreboard reports with lots of random factors.

There aren’t many cheats, even literal aimbots that guarantee wins in many games.
As a side point, whether the game is won or lost is really immaterial in the end, it’s lame to have been using the min the first place. I’m sure I can dope myself to some Cold War East German swim team levels and still lose in competition X, it still makes me a cheater for doping in the first place, maybe worse since I cheated and lost.

But all these mods do contribute, significantly, try them and see. There are OFC those who won’t benefit from them and that’s a player limitation. I tried them, it’s very clear what they are intended for, especially the ones masquerading as “accessibility”. I also felt like a dirty cheater trying them, because, well duh.

If you think knowing how much HP, positions of highest threats, getting warnings of imminent nets and overheads+, danger radii etc etc. is not a huge boon then you’re being dishonest or ignorant, or both. There’s a reason people use them, if they were mostly benign or low value then you’d see a drastic ally lower % use vs now. Nobody would “pollute” their screens like that if it didn’t give you a huge benefit.

Random people deserve to experience the game as it was intended, not having some jackhole use a puzzle solver, having some jerkoff know exactly where all the highest threats, and how many, and how to prioritize them etc. etc, 'cause you know

This extends, so painfully obviously, to all the cheaty mods. Prioritizing and keeping track of dangers is a core feature of these types of games, it’s skillz that people develop with practice and a rewarding skillset to acquire. IDK how in holy frakking hell MrE could say this and not die from the irony, but …yikes.

I don’t think I need to elaborate for the hundredth time how one or more ppl using these cheaty mods affects the rest of the team trying to play the game legit.

If nothing else, these cheaty mod users deserve ridicule for being ridiculous. We may live in a post-truth and post-shame world the last decade+, but F 'em.

Does this rest of the team occasionally win?

LOL probably?

okay i think youre a little too invested in this if we are getting meta-psychological. I like my mods because they make my game more to my liking, simple as. I am not the great satan responsible for all loss of moral character in the world. This simply cannot be that serious, lol.

i guess i will just go continue to ‘be my worst self,’ or as i call it, be myself

Aaaaaand we’re back to our regularly scheduled crapfest. Take another hit off the copium pipe.

If anything I pulled my punches to spare your feelings. Yous streamers should feel bad, I’d say you should feel shame but clearly that’s not a thing anymore. Maybe you guys should get some matching made in CN inquisition-red hats that say “Make Atoma Great Again” or something to identify yourselves.

BTW, help clear this up for those of us living in an “alternative-facts”-free parallel dimension:

How do you unironically say that but not trip over the line to extending this to your “more to you liking mods” ?

Maybe try being someone better? “To thine own self be true” doesn’t apply if your core values are objectively wrong.

Awww, cheaters are so fragile, don’t like what you see in the mirror? Clearly the only solution is to break the mirror!

I shan’t dignify that with a response.

FUnc out!

Are these cheaters here in the room with us or did you forget your meds again today old man?

LOL, thanks for reminding me. Hay Fever season gotta take a pill.

Maybe add the “/s” to the PFP so as not to confuse your elders.

Here ya go

P.S. LOL at “accessibility mod”, nice touch! Goto Discord and get your reward.

Nooo why did you report me, you grumpy old dwarf :sob:

Wasn’t me obviously, I got the warning when I replied.

IDK who did, but it wasn’t necessary OFC.

People are very well capable of figuring out your mental disability without consulting an echo chamber buddy. You need help. You’re chasing ghosts and it’s affecting your mental health.