# PC players deserve the ability to disable crossplay **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Feedback\ **Created:** [December 12, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302 "2023-12-12T20:20:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Flawless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@Flawless](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Flawless)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/42 "2023-12-15T12:36:25Z")
> [@Dollfie](#): > > it’s negligible in this because a m&kb doesn’t make your reaction times better It does not make you react faster but it allows your reaction to translate into action much faster. Having to look around very quickly is a common thing in this game. Not being able to do it very well, not only reduces your offensive capabilities but also your general awareness. > [@Dollfie](#): > > every enemy in this game runs or walks straight at you, or stands in a single spot as they shoot at you. everything is predictable. you can aim for a headshot at an enemy hiding behind cover because you KNOW they’re going to peek out eventually, and in an exact spot. Except not all enemies do that. And you have teammates. Any enemy that goes after one of your teammates, will not be running straight at you unless that teammate is standing right behind you. Even when they are still running in a straight line towards a teammate, their angular speed towards you will change constantly. Not sure what diff you are talking about but in my experience, it is a pretty bad idea to just aim at one spot and wait for an enemy to show up. > [@Dollfie](#): > > bad players are bad players. it doesn’t matter what they’re using. if someone’s using a controller, it’s because they’re used to it, and can (hopefully)perform adequately with it, but the exact same thing applies to a m&kb user. First you acknowledged that there is a performance difference in pvp. Now you basically claim that all input devices are created equal, which is complete bogus. Pick one. There is a reason why some people do a „drumkit challenge run“ or „guitar challenge run“. Because different input devices have different strengts and weaknesses. Independent of your skill, you will perform worse when using a tool that is not quite right for the job. ---
**Author:** ![Wayworntitan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/edb3f5/32.png) [@Wayworntitan](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Wayworntitan)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:36pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/43 "2023-12-15T12:36:46Z")
Ah yes, because I should be expected to perform flawless every run, always clutch when two or three people go down, and never ever lose because the game is so EZ. Clearly I am simply inferior in every way and have no legitimate gripes whatsoever, because I mean obviously you have spoken. I get there are new players, I get their going to have issues. My problem is their often arrogant and have no intention on learning, diving into Heresy at low levels under geared and under talented. And then giving an attitude on top of it. Also it’s not hard to figure out who has input lag when you watch someone miss a door and walk into a wall… ---
**Author:** ![QuantumRage](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/quantumrage/32/69952_2.png) [@QuantumRage](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/QuantumRage)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/44 "2023-12-15T12:48:22Z")
just get some friends, or better still, use your microphone in game, and find other people with microphones, add them as friends and play with them, problem solved, no more console players for you to deal with honestly, if your good enough you can carry a high level game even with someone dyeing constantly. you do have the option to just not pick them up and continue playing as normal you can also just stop playing lvl 5 missions when you don’t have a full squad **shrugs** just sayen ---
**Author:** ![Ayarraz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4bbf92/32.png) [@Ayarraz](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ayarraz)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/45 "2023-12-15T13:14:09Z")
Here is the issue. No need for flawless executions here. You don’t have to be exceptional in this game to carry. Ant clutch is clutch for a reason, it is a not expected, barely won situation. Most wannabe clutches fail. Also, how come that you can basically say that every console player is inferior but when I tell you that your issue is skill based, you take up a nice cozy victim pose? ---
**Author:** ![Bigpfeiffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Bigpfeiffer](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Bigpfeiffer)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/46 "2023-12-15T13:46:13Z")
I think It is much more complex than what you are making it out to be. I can get long range head shots better on MNK. I can do everything else better on a controller. My brother and I played a handle full of games last night. I was 1st in 4 games and 2nd in 2 games on the scoreboard. This is on damnation x 3 auric x 2 and 1 maelstrom mission. Just giving you my experience with a controller ---
**Author:** ![Dollfie](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dollfie/32/70091_2.png) [@Dollfie](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dollfie)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/47 "2023-12-15T14:21:31Z")
everything you’ve brought up, i’ve already covered, and has probably been addressed multiple times in other similar topics lol all you guys ever do is take things to the very extreme and cherry-pick or come up with the the most ridiculous and obscure examples whenever you get shut down lol it’s an fps. that’s it. it’s not some super elite genre or game that only the top % of certain players can do well in. there are terrible players across the board on both sides. this game doesn’t require someone to be in the top % of controller players to be good at. so what if you get a bad controller player once in a while? cry about it. you’ve had far more pc players doing the exact same thing over the past year. whining and complaining about some people that have only been playing for 2 months, and then generalizing that all of them are bad and that m&kb is superior in the most extreme cases is just hilarious lol ---
**Author:** ![Draconian](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/draconian/32/78095_2.png) [@Draconian](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Draconian)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/48 "2023-12-15T14:47:24Z")
When i saw the post’s title, i was like - i couldn’t wait to see what the reasoning for this is. And the post did not disappoint. ---
**Author:** ![Flawless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eada6e/32.png) [@Flawless](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Flawless)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/49 "2023-12-15T15:01:00Z")
> [@Dollfie](#): > > all you guys ever do is take things to the very extreme and cherry-pick or come up with the the most ridiculous and obscure examples whenever you get shut down lol You are as guilty of this, as those who blame console players for everything. > [@Dollfie](#): > > whining and complaining about some people that have only been playing for 2 months, and then generalizing that all of them are bad and that m&kb is superior in the most extreme cases is just hilarious lol Well i didn’t do any of that. All i did was pointing out facts and telling you that some people want to disable crossplay. You constantly bring up things that i never said, argue with strawmen and act like i am complaining about console players, which i am not. ---
**Author:** ![Dumlefudge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c67d28/32.png) [@Dumlefudge](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dumlefudge)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/50 "2023-12-15T15:21:02Z")
These crossplay threads, every damn time 😂 > I would like Steam to have crossplay opt-out, in order to have similar functionality to other platforms /thread Unless you wanted the thread to become a dumpster fire 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![gpkgpk](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/gpkgpk/32/119406_2.png) [@gpkgpk](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/gpkgpk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/51 "2023-12-15T19:10:41Z")
Well you “whole point” is nonsensical, it may have made mor sense in your head. Yeah most of the player are PC but there’s a noticeable xbox base too, they’re very noticeable for a reason and it’s not a good one. For the umpteenth time, the “bias” as you put it didn’t spring out of existence from nothing, they earned it. Your "both sides "argument holds no water. You don’t have the hours, observation skills or are disingenuous about the reality of average quality of xbox players PC, a combination of all 3 most likely. Your burying your head in the sand serves no purpose other than to make you feel good about you Polyanna-ing the situation, good for you I guess. By all mean, if it becomes an option you keep playing with them and pat yourself on the back. ---
**Author:** ![gpkgpk](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/gpkgpk/32/119406_2.png) [@gpkgpk](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/gpkgpk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/52 "2023-12-15T19:20:07Z")
Whoosh indeed, looks like both of you missed it. Fewer players who have an underlying common factor made a far far more noticeable impact, what could it be, and why? Why is a smaller number of players grossly over-represented? I guess we’ll never know… ---
**Author:** ![TakoyakiGremlin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/takoyakigremlin/32/67530_2.png) [@TakoyakiGremlin](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/TakoyakiGremlin)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/53 "2023-12-15T19:56:02Z")
lol you’re constantly in these whining threads, saying the exact same things, circle-jerking the exact same people. but, once again, you’ve got nothing new to say, and have no idea what you’re even talking about lol you don’t know how to look at things objectively and baby rage about things you don’t understand. if you like stats so much, how about looking at the fact that out of the thousands of views these baby rage topics are, you barely have 50 people, “liking”, them, and far less actually participating in your circle jerk. you don’t bother actually reading any points made by anyone else, you just use them as an excuse to keep typing your nonsense. but yeah, keep on going with the, “all controller players are bad”, thing. seems to be working out great for you lol ---
**Author:** ![gpkgpk](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/gpkgpk/32/119406_2.png) [@gpkgpk](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/gpkgpk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/54 "2023-12-15T20:00:49Z")
> [@TakoyakiGremlin](#): > > lol you’re constantly in these whining threads, saying the exact same things, circle-jerking the exact same people. Irony much ? P.S. I think you need more LOLs sprinkled about to really drive the point home. ---
**Author:** ![TakoyakiGremlin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/takoyakigremlin/32/67530_2.png) [@TakoyakiGremlin](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/TakoyakiGremlin)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/55 "2023-12-15T20:03:47Z")
lol’ing at people that have such poor arguments is, in fact, funny l.o.l. ---
**Author:** ![gpkgpk](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/gpkgpk/32/119406_2.png) [@gpkgpk](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/gpkgpk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/56 "2023-12-15T20:04:44Z")
> [@TakoyakiGremlin](#): > > lol’ing at people that have such poor arguments is, in fact, funny l.o.l. Hey look at that, we agree on something lol. ---
**Author:** ![TakoyakiGremlin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/takoyakigremlin/32/67530_2.png) [@TakoyakiGremlin](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/TakoyakiGremlin)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/57 "2023-12-15T20:07:26Z")
> [@gpkgpk](#): > > Hey look at that, we agree on something lol. see, there you go c: it’s good to laugh at yourself sometimes~ ---
**Author:** ![Dollfie](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dollfie/32/70091_2.png) [@Dollfie](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dollfie)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/58 "2023-12-15T20:08:17Z")
and pretty much every you say is nonsensical 🤷‍♀️ you have nothing to offer in pretty much anything you reply to, and your cringey elitist attitude doesn’t help your cause, either. and i don’t have a problem playing with anyone because it’s a game. i’m also generally good enough to not have to worry about one person potentially dragging the entire team down once every dozen or more games 💁‍♀️ you’re just not as good as you think you are and you feel the need to blame others. i’m sure you think every other console game suffers lol ---
**Author:** ![gpkgpk](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/gpkgpk/32/119406_2.png) [@gpkgpk](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/gpkgpk)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/59 "2023-12-15T20:19:53Z")
No you. Sounds to me like you 2 are consolers that are feeling singled out. Guess what, there’s a reason the xboxers are being somewhat singled out, but you haven’t quite figured it out yet, and that’s OK, it’s not required of you. > [@Dollfie](#): > > your cringey elitist attitude doesn’t help your cause, either. Aw the big bad mean PC players are being elitists oh heavens not that. Would more emojis, more lols, more “Waifus” help “my cause”? Maybe some low-effort strawmen to really drive the point home. > [@Dollfie](#): > > i’m also generally good enough to not have to worry about one person potentially dragging the entire team down once every dozen or more games 💁‍♀️ you’re just not as good as you think you are and you feel the need to blame others. That MUST be it, you cracked the code. ---
**Author:** ![Dollfie](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dollfie/32/70091_2.png) [@Dollfie](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dollfie)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/60 "2023-12-15T20:24:22Z")
> [@Flawless](#): > > You are as guilty of this, as those who blame console players for everything the difference is i am specifically asked why i think the way i do, so i cannot cherry-pick when i’m being directly asked for my opinion on something lol > [@Flawless](#): > > Well i didn’t do any of that. > All i did was pointing out facts and telling you that some people want to disable crossplay. > > You constantly bring up things that i never said, argue with strawmen and act like i am complaining about console players, which i am not. again, i’ve already addressed this numerous times in my previous replies to you. ---
**Author:** ![Dollfie](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dollfie/32/70091_2.png) [@Dollfie](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Dollfie)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302/61 "2023-12-15T20:31:32Z")
i play this on pc, but try harder 💁‍♀️ i do not view you as any sort of “big bad mean pc player”. not even close lol the fact that you have nothing to say other than, “use more emojis and lol’s”, sure is a strong arguement 👍 > [@gpkgpk](#): > > That MUST be it, you cracked the code. it doesn’t take a genius, but no one ever accused you of being one in the first place. [Previous page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/pc-players-deserve-the-ability-to-disable-crossplay/89302.md?page=4)