# Patch Reaction **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 4, 2023, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970 "2023-04-04T22:31:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Lexa](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/lexa/32/43189_2.png) [@Lexa](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Lexa)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:39am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/142 "2023-04-06T11:39:30Z")
nah, you just want to water down the discussion about balance with talks about more maps, crafting system etc. as if games can only have either balance or content. ---
**Author:** ![Lexa](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/lexa/32/43189_2.png) [@Lexa](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Lexa)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/144 "2023-04-06T11:41:39Z")
Everything is connected on some level. Why not bring discussion about game performance into this. What about chip shortage and the prices of video cards? Gloabal trade Glabal warming water it down some more when you have no arguments ---
**Author:** ![Rieven](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/rieven/32/48558_2.png) [@Rieven](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Rieven)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/145 "2023-04-06T11:45:11Z")
You have an opinion i have an opinion they are not the same hence argument. argument _noun_ 1. 1. an exchange of [diverging]or opposite views ---
**Author:** ![Eisenfaust](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/eisenfaust/32/64598_2.png) [@Eisenfaust](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Eisenfaust)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:45am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/146 "2023-04-06T11:45:37Z")
> [@Darth\_Angeal](#): > > “the majority” tends to play meta, not because they´re attracted how a weapon / class or whatever is played, but how its output performs. Hm - you may be right. Their fault if they ignore so much of th games potential for fun, but I see your point. 😉 > [@Darth\_Angeal](#): > > you would need 2-3 strikes to do what you actually do with just one (to outbalance it properly), i´m sure the most poeple will be mad af aswell. You could also mostly reduce stagger from engergized attacks (as a blade that cuts as clean as a power sword has less impact on you then it would have in an unpowered state). At the same time reduce unpowered cleave a little. Thus Ragers/Maulers and crushers on damnation would jast walk through your powered cuts and hit you in the face while the horde just dies. This would give you an incentive to use unpowered swings for CC or preparing elites for the killing blow and make it less “braindead” against elite melee enemies **on higher difficulties** - while on the same time leaving the weapon basically intact and fun on lower difficulties. > [@Darth\_Angeal](#): > > I know dozens of games where poeple react the same, even better players. It´s just a widespreaded nature of humans being like “Everything is pointless if i lose or don´t get rewarded, i wasted my lifetime on this!”. Really just having fun to have fun is rare these days especially in videogames. > > I mean… it´s not just that games changed because the devs wanted it so. Games changed into “daily work”, because dozens of players like it that way and need their daily dosis of easy rewards to stay engaged with it. Beschäftigungstherapie und so… Propably also true - BUT I still think that of you could gain the same reward on heresy that you could get from damnation, those who play damnation would only be there for the challenge and thus would have less problems with losing a match 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Tzcheese](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/tzcheese/32/53773_2.png) [@Tzcheese](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Tzcheese)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:50am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/147 "2023-04-06T11:50:25Z")
tbh the power sword special still feels stronger than most alternatives even without blessings that support it. I don’t get what all the fuss is about. ---
**Author:** ![Rieven](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/rieven/32/48558_2.png) [@Rieven](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Rieven)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/148 "2023-04-06T11:51:27Z")
Its fine im still using the exact same loadout in damnation+ as pre nerf. Just have to be a bit more careful in melee. This thread was started to point out the damage nerfing weapons does to the majority of the player base… ---
**Author:** ![Lexa](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/lexa/32/43189_2.png) [@Lexa](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Lexa)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 12:01pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/149 "2023-04-06T12:01:04Z")
The thing about you personally is that I don’t think even you believe in > [@Rieven](#): > > Do you think this game should have balance patch’s - NO But you are willing to go to such extremes to prove your point that I am unable to discuss this with you, but rather the completely skewed version of yourself that you created. For example, I know you edited a post yesterday where you said that you are just glad that you **abused** (your word) the PS to farm the crafting mats you can now invest in a different weapon which is perfectly fine, that was the meta. But now that this meta is over, you will not admit that it was complete BS. This is the difference between those whiners on Steam forums whose dogsht takes you felt the need to dump on this forum and players with a gram of self-reflection. Now, just like most people, I have played a lot of multiplayer games over the years, and I’ve been hit (My weapon/faction/item …) with a nerf hammer countless times. The almost universal reaction to nerfing obvious OP stuff was silence by us who abused it, but with a smile because we **knew** that what we were doing is cheezy. The trend, nowadays, seems to be to **double-down** on stupidity, and you can only do that by telling yourself and others these outrageous things even you don’t believe. Hope you grow out of it. Honestly. ---
**Author:** ![Rieven](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/rieven/32/48558_2.png) [@Rieven](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Rieven)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/150 "2023-04-06T12:18:13Z")
Your casual dismissal of all those people angry about the nerf to their weapons and you inability to see how the crafting system compounds the problem show a distinct lack of insight. Just because I’m not effected by something does not mean I cant understand why it would make other people angry. You lack empathy. I’m against nerfs in games like this. There are other ways to achieve balance and create a challenge for people who find the game too easy that don’t throw anyone under the bus or waste peoples time. Goddamn right I abused it lol like you ive been around a bit and saw the writing on the wall so to speak. I prepared myself for the nerfs. I knew they would come. I read a lot and I saw the pressure being put on the devs by a section of the player base who came (for the most part) from the previous tide games. You would call it “whining” smh > [@Lexa](#): > > whiners on Steam forums whose dogsht takes Shows a lot about you that single sentence. That’s why ive been winding you up. Show a bit more respect for other people have a bit of empathy for how they feel it will make you a better person. edit\* > [@Lexa](#): > > you will not admit that it was complete BS. I have never said the power sword was not op I said I don’t think games like this should have nerfs rather they should buff under performing weapons to offer more choice or at the very least make the crafting more accessible before they start screwing around with peoples weapons and skills. > [@Lexa](#): > > I am unable to discuss this with you Good, kindly sod off then lol you turned up here and @ me in the first place remember. ---
**Author:** ![semn007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f4b2a3/32.png) [@semn007](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/semn007)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/151 "2023-04-06T16:44:11Z")
So, 6+ months since the launch has passed. I guess? Maths is not my strongest point. I see that though some improvements have been implemented the game is still in poor state. Do you remember we’re promised 1 new career a month? We only have 4 careers. And their main issue that there’s not much choice, customisation wise. The crafting hasn’t been finalised. I haven’t reinstalled the game so I dunno if it crashes every 10 minutes still. Scoreboard is not there. It seems that the delay team wasn’t extreme enough. I’d give it another 6 month wait. ---
**Author:** ![Eisenfaust](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/eisenfaust/32/64598_2.png) [@Eisenfaust](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Eisenfaust)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/152 "2023-04-06T17:14:41Z")
> [@semn007](#): > > Do you remember we’re promised 1 new career a month? I actually don‘t - source? ---
**Author:** ![Ralendil](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ralendil/32/108313_2.png) [@Ralendil](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ralendil)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/153 "2023-04-06T17:19:02Z")
It was one every quarter ---
**Author:** ![Wyck](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/wyck/32/55519_2.png) [@Wyck](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Wyck)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/154 "2023-04-06T17:24:57Z")
Meanwhile review-bombs are keep falling. It’s down from 65% pre Patch #7 to 59%. It saddens me. I was hoping it will crawl out from Mixed in a month or so into “Slightly positive”. My guess it’s only Psykers that Fatshark can nerf without any consequences to game rating. P.S. a disclaimer about last part for those who new and only have seen a MASSIVE buffs to psykers , before that massive buff and since the start of Early Access last year - it was nerf after nerf after nerf after nerf (mixed with fixes that essentially worked as nerfes) for Psykers. ---
**Author:** ![Smilingbob](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/smilingbob/32/99589_2.png) [@Smilingbob](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Smilingbob)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 2:34am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/155 "2023-04-07T02:34:35Z")
I doubt we’ll see the nerfs get walked back, but maybe we might see some tuning to bring the over-correction back in line… here’s to hoping! ---
**Author:** ![Riku](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/riku/32/118330_2.png) [@Riku](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Riku)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/156 "2023-04-07T03:46:24Z")
> [@Wyck](#): > > My guess it’s only Psykers that Fatshark can nerf without any consequences to game rating. —““this makes me smile””— grimaldus, hero of hive helsreach ---
**Author:** ![MarxistDictator](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/marxistdictator/32/106716_2.png) [@MarxistDictator](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MarxistDictator)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/157 "2023-04-07T06:39:57Z")
Still pretty hyperbolic, like power sword is a way better catachan. I keep hearing people say ‘the defenses’ but its 1 dodge and normal distance. Then compare the damage. Lights or heavies that weapon does extremely low damage. I don’t get it. Then instead of an incredibly useless counter that does the damage of a strikedown light to 1 enemy you can power it up, cleave armor and kill about 3 damnation groaners in a swing with no blessings. Flamethrower is still more than capable of killing things there’s just no guarantees you’ll come out on top without using a dodge or 2 or your teammates focusing the elites in your firestorm. Again this is just letting other people play the game too, you can still blind them. ---
**Author:** ![Wyck](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/wyck/32/55519_2.png) [@Wyck](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Wyck)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2023, 6:49am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/158 "2023-04-07T06:49:34Z")
Because good psyker players like it rough 🙂 And bad ones will not see a difference. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/3/1/319a2f41b73f03a4d9360defbe43058888a33c8c.png) [@system](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2023, 6:50am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/patch-reaction/77970/159 "2023-04-14T06:50:02Z")
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