# Ogryn weak **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Feedback\ **Created:** [February 11, 2025, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171 "2025-02-11T08:45:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Torb1980](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Torb1980](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Torb1980)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 8:45am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/1 "2025-02-11T08:45:56Z")
I love this game very much, but damn is it dissapointing how weak Ogryns are. You really need to buff him. Make his heavy attacks quicker and make him able to get out of hound attacks by himself at the least. That would make much more sense to a brute that size and strength. Its pathetic otherwise ---
**Author:** ![DVD.exe](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dvd.exe/32/116175_2.png) [@DVD.exe](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DVD.exe)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/3 "2025-02-11T10:06:49Z")
Why? OP’s not saying anything different from the other ogryn threads. ---
**Author:** ![Vertraxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a5b964/32.png) [@Vertraxxx](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Vertraxxx)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/4 "2025-02-11T10:34:45Z")
other classes are just too strong, but that doesn’t mean Ogryn is weak. He’s not exactly strong, but he’s decent. He does take some skill to play, but if you know what you’re doing, he works just fine. skilled players can even carry T5 HISTG with him. the ones calling Ogryn weak are usually those who rely too much on DS, meta builds, and weapons. and those players make up most of Auric. since the Unlocked & Loaded update, tons of new players have joined, but because of OP weapons, builds, and classes, many are jumping into high-difficulty content without enough skill. ---
**Author:** ![Phracatti](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/phracatti/32/69579_2.png) [@Phracatti](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Phracatti)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/5 "2025-02-11T10:57:41Z")
Other threads are wrong as well. ---
**Author:** ![Phracatti](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/phracatti/32/69579_2.png) [@Phracatti](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Phracatti)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/6 "2025-02-11T11:00:40Z")
Most of the players are simply bad at meleeing, and melee is where ogryn shines, at ANY difficulty. He also plays very different from human classes, so you can’t just transfer your learnt skills over. ---
**Author:** ![DVD.exe](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dvd.exe/32/116175_2.png) [@DVD.exe](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DVD.exe)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/7 "2025-02-11T11:01:18Z")
How wrong? Majority of his weapons are underpowered and people have an issue with his talent tree at the surface level. Not many of us have the time to get nuanced about it. ---
**Author:** ![Phracatti](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/phracatti/32/69579_2.png) [@Phracatti](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Phracatti)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/8 "2025-02-11T11:03:20Z")
So if you are unwilling to put the mileage in, the class is to blame? How bout we leave one class honest, you’ll still have 3 other to pick your cheese from. ---
**Author:** ![Ralendil](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/ralendil/32/108313_2.png) [@Ralendil](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Ralendil)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/9 "2025-02-11T11:17:32Z")
> [@Vertraxxx](#): > > the ones calling Ogryn weak are usually those who rely too much on DS, meta builds, and weapons. and those players make up most of Auric. Not wrong But there is something wrong regarding the Ogryn weapons… They have not all the same efficiently. ---
**Author:** ![harlekein](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/harlekein/32/90957_2.png) [@harlekein](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/harlekein)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/10 "2025-02-11T11:29:03Z")
> [@Phracatti](#): > > Most of the players are simply bad at meleeing, and melee is where ogryn shines, at ANY difficulty. > > He also plays very different from human classes, so you can’t just transfer your learnt skills over. This again? > [@Fatshark, could you please save Ogryn? I beg you](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/fatshark-could-you-please-save-ogryn-i-beg-you/102710/185): > > I know you cleared Havoc. Jsat also cleared Havoc with 4 Ogryns. You know why? Because they wanted a challenge. I’m not asking if you can do H40 with Ogryn. I’m asking if you think Ogryn is balanced in comparison with other classes. Since you keep saying the other classes have a “get out of jail free” button and to play Ogryn well you have to become better, you did answer. You consider Orgyn to take more skill, so indirectly you admit Ogryn isn’t on the same level as the other classes. Perfect timing, since you need more explanation as to why Ogryn is bad: [https://youtu.be/R\_Y7wESzWA8?si=0vOkWvZLF5F2bXva&t=7676](https://youtu.be/R_Y7wESzWA8?si=0vOkWvZLF5F2bXva&t=7676) Every talent and keystone has better alternatives on other classes. ---
**Author:** ![DVD.exe](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dvd.exe/32/116175_2.png) [@DVD.exe](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DVD.exe)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/11 "2025-02-11T11:31:52Z")
No, people are getting the vibe that something is already wrong with the class. People have put mileage into the class and the above statements don’t change. ---
**Author:** ![TrueZealot](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/truezealot/32/63618_2.png) [@TrueZealot](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/TrueZealot)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/12 "2025-02-11T11:40:49Z")
They already are pretty stronk. But they could use a buff. Disabling disablers though? Idk bout that. ---
**Author:** ![Phracatti](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/phracatti/32/69579_2.png) [@Phracatti](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Phracatti)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:51am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/13 "2025-02-11T11:51:58Z")
I’m sure the guy who doesn’t even play Ogryn knows all about em 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GMG\_Pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@GMG\_Pie](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/GMG_Pie)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/14 "2025-02-11T11:56:59Z")
Ogryn needs a full rework for his skill tree. He is the only class who is not allowed to use light attacks and the majority of his melee weapons are still stuck in patch 12. He’s playable because you can brute force anything in this game with enough skill, but the vast majority of his kit is not fun. Also his dodges are infuriating to play true solos with. ---
**Author:** ![harlekein](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/harlekein/32/90957_2.png) [@harlekein](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/harlekein)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/15 "2025-02-11T12:04:41Z")
I’m sure you didn’t watch any of it and will never actually respond besides saying “Ogryn fine. You just need to melee.” ---
**Author:** ![Phracatti](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/phracatti/32/69579_2.png) [@Phracatti](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Phracatti)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 12:19pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/16 "2025-02-11T12:19:11Z")
Exactly! I get migraine listening to him after 5min, sorry, can’t do. You just gotta melee harder, and all your troubles will go away. ---
**Author:** ![Durandal94](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/durandal94/32/113472_2.png) [@Durandal94](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Durandal94)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/17 "2025-02-11T12:26:37Z")
Ogryn with pickaxe is very powerfull but his other melee weapons suck ass ---
**Author:** ![Phracatti](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/phracatti/32/69579_2.png) [@Phracatti](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Phracatti)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/18 "2025-02-11T12:32:14Z")
So… use pickaxe? It’s not like humans are swimming in S tier choices, havoc lobbies are literally 80% DS4. And if we talking about anything under high havoc, all ogryn melee works fine. ---
**Author:** ![Durandal94](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/durandal94/32/113472_2.png) [@Durandal94](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Durandal94)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/19 "2025-02-11T13:07:00Z")
I like variation ogryn needs more weapons ---
**Author:** ![DVD.exe](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/dvd.exe/32/116175_2.png) [@DVD.exe](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DVD.exe)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/20 "2025-02-11T13:08:57Z")
> [@Phracatti](#): > > And if we talking about anything under high havoc, all ogryn melee works fine. Even accounting for hyperbole, that’s way too much credit being given to ogryn’s weapons. ---
**Author:** ![harlekein](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/harlekein/32/90957_2.png) [@harlekein](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/harlekein)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2025, 2:04pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171/21 "2025-02-11T14:04:21Z")
> [@Phracatti](#): > > all ogryn melee works fine. It’s a low bar you set. Some of us aim higher. [Next page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/ogryn-weak/105171.md?page=2)