# NEW Topic - CONTINUED discussion - Fatshark needs to LISTEN to customers **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Feedback\ **Created:** [August 14, 2019, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-topic-continued-discussion-fatshark-needs-to-listen-to-customers/35210 "2019-08-14T07:18:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 151
**Author:** ![Chaos5715](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/chaos5715/32/22889_2.png) [@Chaos5715](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Chaos5715)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-topic-continued-discussion-fatshark-needs-to-listen-to-customers/35210/151 "2019-08-14T21:57:22Z")
I am just not understanding the drama around stagger. It has been in the game since day one. Except now, you have an option of getting extra damage out of it to make blunt weapons better, or you can take increased power if you don’t want to utilize the extra damage mechanic. They added another row of talents dedicated to it, so nothing is being taken away from you. They increased enemy health, but if you take increased power then it doesn’t make much of a difference in my experience. However, beastmen mechanics are quite different and I think most people are dying because of them, not stagger mechanic. Most of what I said in this other thread below still holds true. Except now I understand the stagger system and I like it. In the gameplay video in that thread I fight almost nothing but beastmen the entire map. > [@Liking the changes so far](http://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/liking-the-changes-so-far/35022): > > I haven’t played a whole lot yet, unlocked the new weapons and played a handful of legend games, but haven’t touched weaves as of yet. Of the classes I’ve played so far I am quite happy with the talent changes. I haven’t noticed a difference in the dodge or stagger mechanics. Although, I have never been overly concerned about breakpoints so stagger isn’t an issue, I just hit things till they die. I’m not completely clear on the new stagger talents (do the damage buffs apply to the hit that cause… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/new-topic-continued-discussion-fatshark-needs-to-listen-to-customers/35210)._