# My humble opinion **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Feedback\ **Created:** [August 21, 2024, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993 "2024-08-21T07:06:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![URKA](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/urka/32/75129_2.png) [@URKA](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URKA)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 7:06am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/1 "2024-08-21T07:06:14Z")
Darktide is boring. Sorry, but is what I think and feel. I played like 5 matches, I stopped playing it. To me is like a L4D 3. Is nice, but nothing surprising… - Player characters are just something “general”, they don’t have their own personality. I would prefer to have characters like in Vermintide. Maybe we could have both options. - Maps styles look all the same, and too dark. I know people will say that “it is supposed to be like that”. I don’t care, I will not play all times same style maps. In Vermintide you have forest, town, castles, snow, etc. - Why filthy normal humans (and ogrin). I would like to play as Space Marine, Eldar, etc. People tells me that a Space Marine would kill too easy the enemies. If enemies are orks, tyranids it would be not that easy. - In general there is nothing new, like I said. I know these would be BIG changes, but I wanted to say it. Thanks for reading it. Best wishes. ---
**Author:** ![ForumWarrior](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/forumwarrior/32/80804_2.png) [@ForumWarrior](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/ForumWarrior)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/2 "2024-08-21T07:18:48Z")
> [@URKA](#): > > Why filthy normal humans (and ogrin). I would like to play as Space Marine For many of us, this is a large appeal of the game. You are nothing special, just a cog in the massive imperium war machine. You still get the job done, though. Space Marine 2 releases next month, personally i will enjoy both games. ---
**Author:** ![MunKy](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/munky/32/72010_2.png) [@MunKy](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MunKy)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/3 "2024-08-21T07:47:13Z")
> [@URKA](#): > > To me is like a L4D 3. Is nice, but nothing surprising… Honestly, that makes me happy. DT is pretty much, in **gameplay** , exactly what I wanted from it. ---
**Author:** ![DiamondNova](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/diamondnova/32/78132_2.png) [@DiamondNova](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DiamondNova)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 8:02am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/4 "2024-08-21T08:02:23Z")
> [@URKA](#): > > Why filthy normal humans (and ogrin). I would like to play as Space Marine, Eldar, etc. > People tells me that a Space Marine would kill too easy the enemies. If enemies are orks, tyranids it would be not that easy. What a lad, this has to be one of least effortfull feedback, if not a bait. ---
**Author:** ![Heretical\_Cactus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/heretical_cactus/32/73867_2.png) [@Heretical\_Cactus](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Heretical_Cactus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 8:12am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/5 "2024-08-21T08:12:42Z")
> [@URKA](#): > > Player characters are just something “general”, they don’t have their own personality. I would prefer to have characters like in Vermintide That’s mostly due to VT1/2 having only 5 character to riff on, while DT has to do it on 12 (+9 if we count the gender personalities as separate) Which is done cause people want to be able to play as all Veteran, or all Ogryn Which would be weird if it played as all Kruber… > [@URKA](#): > > Maps styles look all the same, and too dark. I know people will say that “it is supposed to be like that”. I don’t care, I will not play all times same style maps. In Vermintide you have forest, town, castles, snow, etc. I mean yea, there are some lack of variety in the maps, but they’re bringing new sectors, Carnival is somewhat more castle town looking, and the last sector is basically a snow sector > [@URKA](#): > > Why filthy normal humans (and ogrin). Because they’re rarely used in the 40k video games, and that they offer nice variety in the possible game types > [@URKA](#): > > I would like to play as Space Marine, Eldar, etc. You wouldn’t really have a game that let you play as both SM and an Eldar, except if they did it with a Rogue Trader (and in which case, why would the RT bother with fighting a tide) > [@URKA](#): > > People tells me that a Space Marine would kill too easy the enemies. They could have done a SM game against the current tides (Chaos Gate pit GK against normal cultist), that’s not really the problem, the problem is that you can’t do SM and normal human alongside each other (Could do Tech Priest and Sororitas possibly) But the main reason they didn’t do SM, is that they get most games anyway. Like even since DT launched we’ve got Boltgun and soon we’ve got SM2 ---
**Author:** ![RTO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RTO](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/RTO)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/6 "2024-08-21T09:31:31Z")
> [@URKA](#): > > they don’t have their own personality. I would prefer to have characters like in Vermintide. That’s what I’ve been saying since launch. Totally agree with you. V2 dialog when characters talk to each other during missions is way way better. > [@URKA](#): > > Maps styles look all the same, and too dark. I know people will say that “it is supposed to be like that”. I don’t care idc either. I don’t like the design either. it’s boring and depressing. They keep adding weps and barrels. I rather have them add more classes. The only thing keeps me playing this game is the combat. I quite enjoy it a lot. After a long coding session, shooting and slashing heretics in DT kinda relaxing. ---
**Author:** ![Jonn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a87d85/32.png) [@Jonn](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Jonn)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 9:42am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/7 "2024-08-21T09:42:58Z")
> [@URKA](#): > > Sorry, but is what I think and feel. I played like 5 matches, I stopped playing it. Most of the draw for this game comes from how well they’ve done melee combat in this game, not saying that the ranged options is any less fun… but I don’t think you have fully enjoyed the one fun strength (and that is the combat!) of this game by playing 5 matches. ---
**Author:** ![NihilistZealot](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/nihilistzealot/32/78084_2.png) [@NihilistZealot](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/NihilistZealot)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 9:46am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/8 "2024-08-21T09:46:05Z")
> [@URKA](#): > > Player characters are just something “general”, they don’t have their own personality. I would prefer to have characters like in Vermintide. Maybe we could have both options. This is a completely fair point. The characters in the name of customization have lost most personality or any real originality. The VO work is killer and I really enjoy the delivery, but I don’t _care_ about any of them (including the NPCs, but I feel that’s more a failure in the writing department and how any of the narrative has been implemented). > [@URKA](#): > > Maps styles look all the same, and too dark. I know people will say that “it is supposed to be like that”. I don’t care, I will not play all times same style maps. In Vermintide you have forest, town, castles, snow, etc. Welcome to a Hive city, population: us. New locales inbound, apparently. Yeah, I’m kinda with you, I’ve gotten a little glazed over feel for repeating the same maps over and over, but it’s also what I expected when they limited the playlist to what it is… > [@URKA](#): > > Why filthy normal humans (and ogrin). I would like to play as Space Marine, Eldar, etc. > People tells me that a Space Marine would kill too easy the enemies. If enemies are orks, tyranids it would be not that easy. If you want to be a Space Marine: GO PLAY SPACE MARINE or one of the various 40k games where you take on a similar role… ---
**Author:** ![Heretical\_Cactus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/heretical_cactus/32/73867_2.png) [@Heretical\_Cactus](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Heretical_Cactus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 9:58am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/9 "2024-08-21T09:58:27Z")
> [@RTO](#): > > They keep adding weps and barrels. I rather have them add more classes. Why would barrels matter here ? Like the one that would work on that would be map makers, not weapon animator/designer. And there is a vast difference between new weapons and a full new class (More so if Class=archetype), there is no way we would have classes dropping as often as they could do for weapons ---
**Author:** ![Jonboy](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/jonboy/32/79392_2.png) [@Jonboy](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Jonboy)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/10 "2024-08-21T09:59:43Z")
The characters are done a disservice by their dialogue exchanges. Some of the writing is just … wrong, I think. In an intense, and importantly short combat mission, no one is going to be idly chatting about some weird space rift or second city. VT2 had heroes with named heroic weapons. They know they’re coming back. Banter is appropriate. DT has plebs with 2nd hand weapons who are fully expected to die. I think some sarcasm is valid, but you’re gonna be more scared and less flippant. Other than that. This is DarkTide. It’s well crafted in its own niche, so … yeah, if aeshetics etc aren’t for you then that’s fair. It’s probably not a game for everyone, hence the low thousand player populations. ---
**Author:** ![MadMartigan](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/madmartigan/32/85568_2.png) [@MadMartigan](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MadMartigan)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 10:06am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/11 "2024-08-21T10:06:22Z")
I disagree with most your points as I absolutely love Darktide… _but_… I would also really, really, really love a darktide style game where you get to play as SM against loads of different factions. Which would I prefer to play? Hard to say without having that version to play but it would certainly make more sense to be a SM when you’ve just killed 1000 enemies in a single outing 😂 I don’t want DT to change but I do want a standalone version with SM and other 40k factions. Please people, don’t say “SM2 is coming out” because, with the exception of featuring SM, it really is not the same style of game or gameplay and it’s not FPS which I prefer infinitely over 3PS. I will play SM2 (duh) but I still wish for a SM DT style game too. ---
**Author:** ![RTO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e480ec/32.png) [@RTO](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/RTO)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/12 "2024-08-21T10:18:14Z")
> [@Heretical\_Cactus](#): > > there is no way we would have classes dropping as often as they could do for weapons never mention having classes dropping as of ten as weps ---
**Author:** ![URKA](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/urka/32/75129_2.png) [@URKA](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URKA)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/13 "2024-08-21T11:11:09Z")
> [@MadMartigan](#): > > Please people, don’t say “SM2 is coming out” because, with the exception of featuring SM, it really is not the same style of game or gameplay and it’s not FPS which I prefer infinitely over 3PS. Agree. ---
**Author:** ![URKA](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/urka/32/75129_2.png) [@URKA](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URKA)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/14 "2024-08-21T11:12:54Z")
Thanks for all your answers and comments. Except @DiamondNova … not nice. I understood the different points. Maybe the game is not for me. Maybe in the future I will give it another opportunity. Peace and good. ---
**Author:** ![DiamondNova](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/diamondnova/32/78132_2.png) [@DiamondNova](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DiamondNova)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/15 "2024-08-21T11:30:35Z")
Well, there is no need for 58294th post of “but mah spec marin”. All in all, your message wasn’t feedback, but preferences statement. ---
**Author:** ![Heretical\_Cactus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/heretical_cactus/32/73867_2.png) [@Heretical\_Cactus](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Heretical_Cactus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/16 "2024-08-21T11:31:07Z")
Toward SM Tide game: > [@Darktide 2: Astartes Traitoris](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/darktide-2-astartes-traitoris/90062/7): > > Would it be cool ? Sure. > > Would it be cooler than what we have ? No. > > Would it be the coolest thing the could do for the next (40k) tide game ? Also no. > > - Orks vs Tyranids: Playing as Ork Nobz (Melee centred); Flashgitz (Ranged centred); Weirdboy (Psyker like); Mekboy; and Killa Kan (Big Archetype) > - Ynnari: Taking member for the Eldar, Dark Eldar and Harlequin > > * * * > > I’m sure that the SM fans would be interested in the game, but there are enough SM games around for them. I’d rather see other factions be featured, like Xenos as playable (Not in Darktide, but their own naratively separated game) The thing with people suggesting (or asking/demanding SM game, is that yes those game would work, SM are quite flexible lorewise so could be made to work for quite a lot of different style of game. But even in the last 5 years (and taking out any card games), 40k has got 5 SM led game (with a new one coming) On the other hand, the Inquisition has 2.5 (Inquisitor Martyr/Prophecy and DT); Rogue Trader have 1 (Eponyme), Mechanicus has 1 and will get a new one, as for Xenos, only Orks have some and they have 3 (Speed Freeks, Shootas and Dakka Squadron. Like if you look at this suggestion we’re just echoing to the problem that the TT had not so long ago (and still somewhat has) where SM fans would alway get an equal attention cake ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/3X/2/f/2f5ef645f11192e521a03d3954e950fca8df0756.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![URKA](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/urka/32/75129_2.png) [@URKA](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URKA)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/17 "2024-08-21T12:35:14Z")
@DiamondNova I think you are the only one crying. I want “mah spec marin”. You don’t agree? I respect it. Respect others. ---
**Author:** ![URKA](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/urka/32/75129_2.png) [@URKA](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/URKA)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/18 "2024-08-21T12:37:12Z")
I still want a “Battlefield: Warhammer 40K”, and a “Aliens vs Predator RTS game”. And I want a “Vermintide style with Space Marines, Eldars, etc”. It is about tastes? Maybe. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![MarxistDictator](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/marxistdictator/32/106716_2.png) [@MarxistDictator](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MarxistDictator)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/19 "2024-08-21T13:16:01Z")
my reply: but I like being a GERDSMEN. ---
**Author:** ![Heretical\_Cactus](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/heretical_cactus/32/73867_2.png) [@Heretical\_Cactus](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Heretical_Cactus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 1:24pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993/20 "2024-08-21T13:24:48Z")
Yes your taste is valid, but it’s quite annoying to have to hear it every time a non SM game happen. Like I’m wholly uninterested in SM, in fact a SM Tide game might be one of the only case where I would be uninterested in a FS game, but SM are popular, so that game would sell quite well, but it’s not like SM are the only valid take of 40k. It’s like if I went to a WW1 game forum and simply start saying, but why didn’t they pick WW2, which is more interesting, and yadda yadda, like yes both are similar and one has garnered more interest, but it also mean it get more games on the usual. [Next page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/my-humble-opinion/97993.md?page=2)