#LetUsPaint

Well I’ll start then.

Earlier this week I saw a Zealot with a great looking silvery armour.
Looking around a bit, I found it was from the Combat-Predicant Enoral set.
After asking on discord, I learned it was last in rotation… about one month ago.

Not sure how much it costed, but congratulations on losing that money because of your shitty FOMO practices, Fatshark!

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That’s kind of why they do it though. They intentionally put players infront of the crossroads here. Next time you see something you might want on the store, you have two ways of thinking:

  1. I should buy this now because I could miss out on it, as it rotates out indefinitely again
  2. I wont buy this because the business model is garbage

Now the point isn’t really specifically what YOU are doing in this situation, the point I’m making is that a lot of people do not have the backbone/willpower required to go for option 2. FOMO works, unfortunately.

This is also why I think the idea of gathering lost sales is a little pointless. You’re basically confirming to them that you actually do feel like you’re missing out. This in turn is proof that the system is tuned in such a way it works, the missing out part of FOMO works. It may seem counterintuitive, but the majority of people are such irresponsible consumers that this works out.

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Sadly you are right. Some of my friends who only played for a couple hundred hours spent too much money on cosmetics… on a game they likely wont come back to :sob:

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in the end, voting with your wallet is the only way to convince someone to change their business practices.
and it’s quite unfortunate that such models work because many people don’t have the spine to say “no”.

this being said, i’ve spent a lot on cosmetics myself, but on stuff i really liked, not for fear i might not see them again. and this is coming from someone who first saw player skins in quake from 1996 as freely downloadable files and never thought anyone would spend money on something like this. then darktide was the only game where i did that.

as much as people use to bash the cosmetics, i’ve found some sets like the enforcers, pirates and vostroyans good, and i also use to buy only the parts i’m interested in, so many of my creations are kitbashed together. also, i don’t have the free space for physical models and the skill to paint them, so that’s it in virtual form. i’d just like to have more freedom with it so i can make my characters more unique.

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This should really only be true when you present GOOD cosmetics that entail effort and enthusiasm toward the product - what items in the store do you think fall along those lines? Maybe 5% of the entire store. Rest of of these cosmetics are complete dogsh*t and anyone with an IQ over room temperature will realize that and completely avoid purchases because why would you buy an armor set you think is cool when there’s a better looking armor set buried in the rotations?

Oh, like you said - people are that irresponsible they say “f*ck it” and buy terrible cosmetics entailing FOMO tactics and the cycle continues. No ones fault but gamers themselves at this point - same exact reason Star Citizen can have a $45,000 microtransaction and people will convince themselves it’s a reasonable deal and spend the equivalent of a whole a** car on some pixels.

Edit: it just dawned on me.. that’s probably their plan to begin with - have a store consisting of 5% good product while the rest is dogsh*t then slap some FOMO on there and that way once a good cosmetic pops up people will want to buy it or risk losing out on it for months.

This is where it gets weird to think about that strategy in terms of questioning whether it is planned mediocrity or accidental.

I feel like we’ve made ourselves fairly clear in terms of what we want, to the point where it feels like it can only be by design. So, at this point I no longer want to do what I did in vermintide 2, which was buy things because I enjoyed the game and want to support the developers. At this point I feel like people playing are playing in spite of the systems created.

It’s a bad feeling, and quite frankly it feels like an abusive relationship, which is why I’ve largely checked out. The best way I can think to describe it is that the cosmetic systems do not respect you as a customer.

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I’m going to push back on this simply because I don’t think the Darktide premium shop is done very well. I think they could be a lot more exploitative and make more money, or they could be far less exploitative and still make more money.

Maybe it’s just me but I feel this is par for the FS course. Break the vaults?

BumBumBumBumBumBUMP!
Bu-Bu-BumBumBumBump! Bu-Bu-BumBumBumBump!
Bu-Bu-BumBumBumBump! BumpetyBump Bump!

I might as well repost the commodore’s ventures post from reddit. It’s a nice encapsulation of sentiments.

ironically i was reading exactly that thread.

tbh, the rotation isn’t that bad. vet looks pompous (although i prefer a red commissar cap), and the black uniform is my main ogryn outfit.

unfortuntely, it’s a rotation. this not being able to buy stuff whenever i want is one of the worst things in the game.