a fkin lasgun can do better with no buffs
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I rescind my comment about crushers.
Vs packs of bulwarks, ragers, maulers it does pretty well.
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ye i’d say flamer is viable, i would bring it into a game no problem, still it wouldn’t hurt like 10% more damage to carapace
I did just fire it up (heh heh) in the test chamber versus a pack of crushers. I hadn’t noticed in game but in the test chamber the damage is indeed awful. Takes like 3-4 full mags from the flamer to kill crushers, even with stacks of blazing piety up. Everything else melts nicely. I guess this is why I bring the combat axe and fury of faithful!
If you have any clue on how to play around the knife, you can clear an auric density horde solo in 18 seconds.
Sure? But there are better weapons for that.
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A plasma gun can do it in two clicks.
more seriously… the question is not if it can clean an horde, but the power of this weapon. And on this, there are a lot of weapons better, like the combat axe.
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This is true. But also, from a zealot point of view, I would suggest the knife has the best defensive tank build in the game.
I know the flavour of the month is some kind of riposte+backstab etc build with extra crits for big hits, but genuinely, the 2-year old build of lacerate and [your choice here], along with specific talents is still an absolute tank. And yes, you can swap lacerate for flesh tearer if you only aim at heads.
Crit on strike (knife: Lacerate), crit on hitting bleeding target and bleed on crit talent (Scourge - this skill might be the best in the game for its effects), extra toughness on crit (Enduring Faith), reduced special timer on crit (Invocation of Death talent) then Fury of the Faithful - with Redoubled Zeal to generate 50% toughness. It’s almost always up and ready to give you your toughness back. Twice.
Then … and no-one mentions this … you’ve a load of bleeding targets around. Bleed is the only DoT that generally overlaps across the classes. It might be minor, but the Ogryn gets a buff when surrounded by bleeding targets (Delight in Destruction). And Vet can support with Frag Grenades. And other players can take knife with Mercy Killer if you want to go all out.
I watch these threads and see what people don’t like; but blanket nerfing the knife is a clumsy solution to, what, people who cloak then stab one crusher in the head? I don’t think I’ve ever done 9000 damage per swing (20k DPS).
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no way knife can get balanced, removing its true perks will make it dissapear. the only balance to the knife would be removing it from the game