# Kerillian Hunting Arrows

**URL:** <https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679>\
**Category:** Bugs\
**Tags:** acknowledged\
**Created:** [December 14, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679 "2018-12-14T23:57:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![PsychoDad](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/psychodad/32/16130_2.png) [@PsychoDad](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/PsychoDad)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 11:57pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679/1 "2018-12-14T23:57:49Z")

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[https://steamcommunity.com/app/552500/discussions/8/2806204039995490166/](https://steamcommunity.com/app/552500/discussions/8/2806204039995490166/)

its a bug or nerf since balance update?

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**Author:** ![Flinlock](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/flinlock/32/16019_2.png) [@Flinlock](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Flinlock)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679/2 "2018-12-15T00:30:28Z")

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**Author:** ![PsychoDad](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/psychodad/32/16130_2.png) [@PsychoDad](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/PsychoDad)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679/3 "2018-12-15T18:09:12Z")

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Kerillian Hunting Arrows

hunting arrows don’t trigger the 1ammo for headshot trait

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**Author:** ![Haxorzist](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/haxorzist/32/16921_2.png) [@Haxorzist](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Haxorzist)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679/4 "2018-12-15T18:21:19Z")

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So you mean Hagbane good to know I mean it would be great if the game had a name for them so we don’t have to make stuff up.

Also this is a bug suggestion?  
I don’t think Fatstshark needs new ideas for new bugs. There already is a huge variety for everybody to choose from.

> [@PsychoDad](#):
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> its a bug or nerf since balance update?

Well it’s not noted in the patch notes so it’s unlikely but they released incomplete patch notes before.

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**Author:** ![PsychoDad](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/psychodad/32/16130_2.png) [@PsychoDad](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/PsychoDad)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679/5 "2018-12-15T20:13:23Z")

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[Moschusbock](https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197987430750) ![](https://steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/public/images/skin_1/iconGames.png) Vor 23 Stunden

did you make sure that you had your ranged selected?

[#1](https://steamcommunity.com/app/552500/discussions/8/2806204039995490166/#c2806204039995972628)

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[⛧pSYCHO⛧Dad⛧ aka hÄMMA](https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998247872) ![](https://steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/public/images/skin_1/iconGames.png) Vor 20 Stunden

it makes no sense but yes i did 😉

[#2](https://steamcommunity.com/app/552500/discussions/8/2806204039995490166/#c2806204039996397410)

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[Bulvej](https://steamcommunity.com/id/Bulvej) ![](https://steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/public/images/skin_1/iconGames.png) Vor 11 Stunden

Do you mean the swift bow?  
And did you by any chance come to this conclusion after changing the trait at the keep and then testing it on a dummy?  
The reason I ask, is because there is a bug where if you have the weapons on as you change the trait, the new trait will not be loaded, and the weapon will still be using the old trait.

[#3](https://steamcommunity.com/app/552500/discussions/8/2806204039995490166/#c2806204039997787246)

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[⛧pSYCHO⛧Dad⛧ aka hÄMMA](https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998247872) ![](https://steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/public/images/skin_1/iconGames.png) Vor 2 Stunden

> Ursprünglich geschrieben von **[Bulvej](https://steamcommunity.com/app/552500/discussions/8/2806204039995490166/#c2806204039997787246)** :
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> Do you mean the swift bow?  
> And did you by any chance come to this conclusion after changing the trait at the keep and then testing it on a dummy?  
> The reason I ask, is because there is a bug where if you have the weapons on as you change the trait, the new trait will not be loaded, and the weapon will still be using the old trait.

i know about the bug 😉  
and i test 3times ingame with hagbane…

i know the trait work before the balance update because i use it a lot

Zuletzt bearbeitet von [⛧pSYCHO⛧Dad⛧ aka hÄMMA](https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998247872); Vor 1 Stunde

[#4](https://steamcommunity.com/app/552500/discussions/8/2806204039995490166/#c2806204039999183002)

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[Bulvej](https://steamcommunity.com/id/Bulvej) ![](https://steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/public/images/skin_1/iconGames.png) Vor 1 Stunde

The Hagbane shortbow is working for me with conservative shooter 😕  
Just a thought, when you say hunting arrows, do you mean the Waystalkers career ability Trueshot Volley?

[#5](https://steamcommunity.com/app/552500/discussions/8/2806204039995490166/#c2806204039999356323)

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[⛧pSYCHO⛧Dad⛧ aka hÄMMA](https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998247872) ![](https://steamcommunity-a.akamaihd.net/public/images/skin_1/iconGames.png) Vor 4 Minuten

> Ursprünglich geschrieben von **[Bulvej](https://steamcommunity.com/app/552500/discussions/8/2806204039995490166/#c2806204039999356323)** :
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> The Hagbane shortbow is working for me with conservative shooter 😕  
> Just a thought, when you say hunting arrows, do you mean the Waystalkers career ability Trueshot Volley?

yes and i say it works before the blanace, thats wrong sry it was in the balance beta and i check the patchnotes again and they not nerfed her career abillity

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**Author:** ![Haxorzist](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/haxorzist/32/16921_2.png) [@Haxorzist](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Haxorzist)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679/6 "2018-12-15T21:20:18Z")

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Ah you are actually talking about the true shot volley good to know. Nobody here or on the steam forum had to guess that.

Also your reply of:

> [@PsychoDad](#):
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> I’m talking about Waystalker’s true shot volley not triggering conservative trait.

Was short and informative. Thank god I didn’t have to read through a forum thread copy/pasted into a post to find out what somebody else guessed until you confirmed it.

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**Author:** ![SmokerT69](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/smokert69/32/19655_2.png) [@SmokerT69](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/SmokerT69)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679/7 "2018-12-15T22:22:09Z")

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Ammo on crits is still triggered with true shot volley. Not sure about the head shot trait.

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**Author:** ![Haxorzist](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/haxorzist/32/16921_2.png) [@Haxorzist](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Haxorzist)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679/8 "2018-12-15T22:33:31Z")

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He didn’t know that his ranged trait wasn’t active when using ult while holding the melee weapon.  
Not that this is genius game design by Fatshark.

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**Author:** ![Flinlock](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/flinlock/32/16019_2.png) [@Flinlock](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Flinlock)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 12:49am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679/9 "2018-12-16T00:49:10Z")

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Headshot doesn’t. It seems weird that it doesn’t when scrounger works… but then again the ult almost always gets several headshots so it would just be more free ammo for a career already drowning in it xD

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**Author:** ![SmokerT69](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/smokert69/32/19655_2.png) [@SmokerT69](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/SmokerT69)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2018, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679/10 "2018-12-16T01:42:02Z")

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Yea, I remember before bbb, I’d take the reduced cool down talent and spam volley. Firing into a horde would get you 18 ammo back lol. Didn’t even need the other ammo talents and could take faster regeneration or team regeneration.

As a WS main, I wouldn’t mind if the ammo trait only regenerated up to 10 arrows or something. So you wouldn’t have arrows regening unless your ammo was really low. This would nerf it a little so people might take one of the other talents.

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**Author:** ![krindi](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/krindi/32/52_2.png) [@krindi](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/krindi)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679/11 "2018-12-18T00:42:23Z")

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As mentioned in the thread, but for clarity:

Using Waywatcher’s Ultimate applies the traits of the weapon you have in your hand at the time you use it. If you want to receive ammo from headshots then you HAVE to switch to your ranged weapon prior to using the Ultimate.

Melee weapons don’t have Conservative Shooter and thus your Trueflight Volley won’t proc ammo from headshots because the trait isn’t equipped.

(This also means you can have different breakpoints depending on whether you have the Ranged weapon or the Melee weapon equipped when you fire the Ultimate off.)

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2018, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/kerillian-hunting-arrows/29679/12 "2018-12-25T00:43:05Z")

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