# It seems that there are many changes in Havoc 2.0 **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [March 24, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/it-seems-that-there-are-many-changes-in-havoc-2-0/106188 "2025-03-24T19:08:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 9
**Author:** ![DrHammer](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/drhammer/32/93943_2.png) [@DrHammer](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/DrHammer)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/it-seems-that-there-are-many-changes-in-havoc-2-0/106188/9 "2025-03-24T20:37:44Z")
Finally, some Good News! Still doesn’t fix a lot of my problems, but this was a much better update than the blog post would make one think. I’ll have to see if the shooter change really makes a difference, but something tells me EFL is going to remain one of > [@The Four Horsemen of the Havocalypse](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-four-horsemen-of-the-havocalypse/106070): > > Party Finder. Deranking. Emperor’s Fading Light. Extreme Ammo Scarcity. These are the four horsemen of the Havocalypse. They are the cause of 90% of Havoc’s problems, and at least 80% of the complaints. The fact these issues were not all addressed after 3 months is lunacy. Get rid of Deranking. Let us set our Havoc Level to any we’ve surpassed. Make Emperor’s Fading Light a rotating modifier. Make Ammo Scarcity a rotating modifier. And add some form of quickplay or auto-invite/auto-accep… --- _[View the full topic](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/it-seems-that-there-are-many-changes-in-havoc-2-0/106188)._