# Is Glaive OP in Legend? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Feedback\ **Created:** [April 26, 2018, 4:05am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453 "2018-04-26T04:05:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Hyrrok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47774/32.png) [@Hyrrok](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Hyrrok)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/42 "2018-04-26T09:48:36Z")
Preach. ---
**Author:** ![Maud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@Maud](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Maud)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/43 "2018-04-26T10:10:23Z")
> [@birdman](#): > > The blade is short. Glaive is kinda wide therm. And Kerillian sprear can actually be considered very close to glaive IRL. (I’m not sure about WH universe thought) ---
**Author:** ![birdman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@birdman](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/birdman)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/44 "2018-04-26T10:51:38Z")
Imo the spear is much closer to a RL partisan, however lacking any protrusion for parrying. ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/2X/f/f1ca868f010af093f4a4036799373cb2bae2c25a.jpg) While the glaive ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/2X/9/9449a2a3780da059583aba3f37ed08148343cd4a.jpg) V2 glaive is short. I’d guess around 1.20m, not much longer than Bardin’s 2h-axe. Kerillian also holds and swings the glaive in a fashion not too much different. The spear is handled in a way more similar to the halberd (or the opposite). Both have clearly much longer shafts, at least 1.5m. ---
**Author:** ![Hyrrok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47774/32.png) [@Hyrrok](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Hyrrok)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 10:59am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/45 "2018-04-26T10:59:33Z")
Just to fuel the discussion ![](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/2X/f/f4793941441981a14596930e8741adc107a43a98.png) ![](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/uploads/fatshark/original/2X/4/40d507870fe1858e392ca65f22199b95e4830fd4.png) ---
**Author:** ![Maud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@Maud](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Maud)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:02am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/46 "2018-04-26T11:02:08Z")
> [@birdman](#): > > Imo the spear is much closer to a RL partisan, however lacking any protrusion for parrying. Agreed. I mostly ment that current glaive doesnt look like glaive at all. It’s more like axe or smth. ---
**Author:** ![NikKotovski](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/nikkotovski/32/12188_2.png) [@NikKotovski](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/NikKotovski)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/47 "2018-04-26T11:05:24Z")
> [@birdman](#): > > Clearly a very literal interpretation, however the current design has no reasonable way of adding hooks or tines such as in RL were used against cavalry. Firstly I should glaive and fauchard is basically the same thing, as stated in [wikipedia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glaive) Some random [museum](https://www.metmuseum.org/search-results#!/search?q=glaive&page=1) thinks the same, also checking their image collection is a must. Now check out this [picture.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Polearms.jpg) We’re interested in anything pre 1500, because after that melee weaponry has started turning ceremonial very quickly. It was still used, but the form was already perfected, and everything past 1500-1600 is ceremonial variants. First, as we can see, the spike is very usual, but not mandatory. Secondly, it was either almost parallel to the blade, or very rudimentary, yet very ornate. It’s because it was used as a weapon catcher, and had nothing to do with catching horsemen. [Halberds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halberd#/media/File:Hallebardes-p1000544.jpg) and [Guisarmes](https://www.metmuseum.org/search-results#!/search?q=Guisarme&page=1) were used for that, but that doesn’t actually matter. The only difference between Kerillian spear and a Glaive - is that Glaives were single edged, and Kerillian “spear” on the other hand is double-edged, and resembles a sword on a shaft. But it is also hard to call this weapon a spear, because [spears](https://www.metmuseum.org/search-results#!/search?q=spear&page=1) were made thin for better armor piercing. ---
**Author:** ![Hyrrok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47774/32.png) [@Hyrrok](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Hyrrok)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/48 "2018-04-26T11:11:36Z")
Just to be pedantic, you’re neglecting the pointy end of the spear making the two weapons vastly different : \> but yes her ‘‘spear’’ is more akin to a glaive and her glaive is more akin to an axe or some sort of chopper ---
**Author:** ![NikKotovski](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/nikkotovski/32/12188_2.png) [@NikKotovski](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/NikKotovski)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/49 "2018-04-26T11:12:02Z")
> [@Maud](#): > > Agreed. I mostly ment that current glaive doesnt look like glaive at all. It’s more like axe or smth. As I said it’s a [glaive](https://www.metmuseum.org/search-results#!/search?q=glaive&page=1)-shaped [bardiche.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bardiche) The latter is basically, yeah, a form of axe. > [@Hyrrok](#): > > Just to be pedantic, you’re neglecting the pointy end of the spear making the two weapons vastly different : I am sorry I was busy writing the post and finding all the links. Btw, glaives can have pointy ends, just watch the [link.](https://www.metmuseum.org/search-results#!/search?q=glaive&page=1) And the [picture.](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Polearms.jpg) I’d say their end is USUALLY sharp. ---
**Author:** ![Hyrrok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e47774/32.png) [@Hyrrok](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Hyrrok)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/50 "2018-04-26T11:20:08Z")
At the end of the day, i think they’re drawing inspiration from the warhammer universe much in the likes of this [http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/images/wood\_elves\_wildwood\_rangers\_glaive\_1\_large.JPG](http://www.bitzbox.co.uk/images/wood_elves_wildwood_rangers_glaive_1_large.JPG) [http://collector-info.com/Manufacturer/GAW/GAWWFB/GAWWFBHE/IMGMini/GAWWFB%209947021006302%20-%20High%20Elf%20Hero%20with%20Spear%20(5ED)%20[CO]%2001.jpg](http://collector-info.com/Manufacturer/GAW/GAWWFB/GAWWFBHE/IMGMini/GAWWFB%209947021006302%20-%20High%20Elf%20Hero%20with%20Spear%20(5ED)%20%5BCO%5D%2001.jpg) Fking edits: been moving for a friend, arms are busted ---
**Author:** ![NikKotovski](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/nikkotovski/32/12188_2.png) [@NikKotovski](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/NikKotovski)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/51 "2018-04-26T11:30:47Z")
Yep. And they can do whatever they want. Also while these spear an glaive look pretty usable, the hammers and some of the axes are just impossible. But that’s a fantasy, so who cares? ---
**Author:** ![Maud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@Maud](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Maud)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/52 "2018-04-26T11:32:36Z")
Looked at a lot of WH fantasy miniatures Keri got typical high elf spear and pretty typical wood elf glaive. Well looks like my WW with spear is kinda heresy XD ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/kitten/32/3725_2.png) [@Kitten](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/53 "2018-04-26T11:38:53Z")
I’ve played the cooldown build and done speed runs if that’s what you mean? 😄 ---
**Author:** ![MistyKale](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/mistykale/32/5306_2.png) [@MistyKale](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MistyKale)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/54 "2018-04-26T11:43:48Z")
Handmaiden with glaive/spear feels great with the increased power talent and her stamina regen. The stealth on dash is really nice as you can charge into a horde of slave rats and make out just fine while deleting most of the horde with bleed damage. Handmaiden can take a bit of getting used to, but I find her really fun once you get it down. ---
**Author:** ![NikKotovski](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/nikkotovski/32/12188_2.png) [@NikKotovski](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/NikKotovski)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/55 "2018-04-26T11:57:15Z")
But u missed the main question: is glaive OP? Any nerfs? > [@Kitten](#): > > I’ve played the cooldown build and done speed runs if that’s what you mean? I meant having passive dash range and taking dash talent for a crazy combo breaker. But speedrunning is nice too. ---
**Author:** ![MistyKale](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/mistykale/32/5306_2.png) [@MistyKale](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/MistyKale)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/56 "2018-04-26T12:03:17Z")
I didn’t miss the question, I just didn’t respond to it. Glaive is a strong weapon, but I wouldn’t call it overpowered. It’s got low stamina (which is why I love it on handmaiden) and if you are solo killing multiple elites that chain attacks against you, it’s very difficult as you can’t stagger all of them or charge up fast enough to kill one at a time without getting hit. ---
**Author:** ![NotTw0Special](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NotTw0Special](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/NotTw0Special)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/57 "2018-04-26T15:25:32Z")
Can’t say galive is Op so much as the rest of her melee are quite lackluster. Have yet to play a game where I didn’t run into a situation of “That could have gone better if I had the galive instead of x”. Sure the spear is a close second with the 180 angle but running my normal +4sta/30+50%(hm) regen/60% block redux setup, I find the angle arguement severly lacking. Even the dodge difference is lacking when I can kite a boss around just as well with either. And dont even get me started on how charged HS with spear (pinpoint accuracy needed) produces marginal reward compared to the galives cheese mode 1-2 HS whose 2nd hit alone already does over 2x the spear. ---
**Author:** ![Maud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bc79bd/32.png) [@Maud](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Maud)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/58 "2018-04-26T16:05:51Z")
> [@NotTw0Special](#): > > already does over 2x the spear. Few weaks ago it was 3x. Dunno if the changed smth recently. ---
**Author:** ![NotTw0Special](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NotTw0Special](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/NotTw0Special)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/59 "2018-04-26T16:35:31Z")
Dont recall reading anything in notes but the last time i used it on a dummy, watched it go from 82 to 120 with a crit back before 1.05, so wouldnt be surprised if its changed since, still deletes CW better than anything else shes got by miles. ---
**Author:** ![Flinlock](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/flinlock/32/16019_2.png) [@Flinlock](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Flinlock)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/60 "2018-04-26T19:10:41Z")
Glaive is solid but I don’t think it is OP. It is all-around good against most things, but it does have some drawbacks that balance it: -Low stamina -Powerful charged attack is the second one in the chain, both only hit one target so if you’ve got multiple elites (or even one elite and some trash) coming at you then landing the powerful attack without getting hit yourself is very hard / impossible -No block canceling, even on regular swings, if you see that overhead coming but you already left clicked to swing you are boned The armor pen buffs that dual swords / sword n dagger got in the previous patch went a long ways towards balancing her weapons so that the glaive doesn’t seem so OP. I think they’re all fairly balanced now. ---
**Author:** ![Bloodseeker](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/forums.fatsharkgames.com/bloodseeker/32/12094_2.png) [@Bloodseeker](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/u/Bloodseeker)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2018, 7:36pm UTC](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453/61 "2018-04-26T19:36:04Z")
glaive on shade? it does less damage with her ult than a light dagger attack lol [Previous page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/is-glaive-op-in-legend/22453.md?page=4)