Infiltrate now deploys a Smoke Grenade with a highlighted Radius; this helps your Teammates who remain within the Smoke Grenade’s Radius deal with any additional Aggro from Enemies. The Veteran who uses Infiltrate will no longer break Stealth on Attacks/Kills made whilst standing still nor on Attacks/Kills made whilst within the Smoke Grenade’s Radius. Edit: The Cooldown could be extended to 60s (without Overwatch), and the Cooldown would only begin once the Ability’s actually finished, as this prevents a lot of silly CDR-related issues.

And you should try reading posts from the beginning instead of giving lectures because you got triggered by one out of context sentence :+1: Sorry for triggering you twice tho, wasn’t my intention

They also intended moving between lanes of the tree. [image]Talent Trees Deep Dive We’ve ended up with a Veteran talent tree that provides a suitably rigid layout with three clear lanes. We have tuned the tree to allow for flexibility, where zig-zagging across the different lanes is not just an option but encouraged. There are clear tinkering spaces where talent options and stat nodes enable builds ranging from pure ranged damage output, suppression immunity and resilience, melee loadouts with stamina configurations and plenty of others in between. The staple features of ammo management and extra grenades are still present, and are integrated into parts of the tree. Creating a well rounded or very specific build for your Veteran is up to you, with clear and straightforward build options available and lots of tinkering hidden in the talent clusters and bridges between lanes. I don’t personally buy that the “commando” playstyle doesn’t work either but even if it doesn’t it purely one lane builds have never been in a thing. That specifically is a pretty arbitrary way to approach balance.

[image] Dizzy721: I don’t personally buy that the “commando” playstyle doesn’t work Care to show your “commando” build that works and isn’t just a severely stunted melee vet with extra tax?

[image] Infiltrate Base - Veteran Build for Darktide Veteran build for Warhammer 40k: Darktide, using the Catachan Mk VII "Devil's Claw" Sword and Godwyn-Branx Mk IV Bolt Pistol. Created by Dizzy. 3 points left over flexed depending on the weapons. Blitz and aura swappable depending on weps as well. Talent between Confirmed Kill/Out for Blood and Close Order Drill also flexible. Serrated blade can be dropped for Field Improv if like PS or something.

Cool, this is my run of the mill melee build. [image] Build Editor - Create your own Builds - Warhammer 40k: Darktide Create your own Warhammer 40,000: Darktide builds for any class with the Darktide Build Editor. which is nearly identical to your commando, except for being faster and more prone to being in and out. Given how nearly identical the builds are, why is your called a commando and mine is the usual melee vet?

[image]Talent Trees Deep Dive We also wanted to allow Veterans to lean into the more aggressive, close to melee range, assault infantry power fantasies. On what started to be known as the ‘commando’ side of things, ambushing and smoke-grenades were added to allow the players to get stuck in and disrupt the ranged enemy domination. There isn’t any daylight between commando and melee build.

No gonna lie, i was hoping for little bit more than semantics :frowning: Because at the end of the day, the difference between stealth commando and a red angel build is two talent points in a different ability…

That’s my point, commando in the way it was being deployed was neither accurate nor useful. If the talents are bad or clunky or whatever that’s fine but they don’t need to be altered on the account of not being commando-y enough.

Well they kinda do, because i for one never imagine commando being just one step away from a build that lets you play like a khornate berserker :smiley:

[image] Dizzy721: They also intended moving between lanes of the tree. I never said that wasn’t the case though. My argument is that the branches are meant to be a playstyle. It’s just not fully developed atm. [image] Dizzy721: purely one lane builds have never been in a thing Ofc I get some talents from other branches, but I can get the Blitz, Aura, Ability, and Keystone from one branch in most of my builds across all classes, and it’s really effective.

Infiltrate buff idea

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Dizzy721 June 9, 2026, 5:18pm 44

There isn’t any daylight between commando and melee build.

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